Digital BW, The Print

I recently bought a Canon digital camera that came with a software program
called Photo Stitch that allows one to stitch images together into single
panoramas, etc.  It works great with the camera's digital output, but it's
limited when stitching film scans.  Is there a program similar to this that
works well with large scanned files?

STEPHEN    JENNINGS
    P h o t o g r a p h e r
       Cambridge, MA
sgjennin@...

Adobe Photoshop Elements has a feature called "Photo Merge," 
which does the stitching automatically.  It isn't available in 
Photoshop 6.0; maybe 7.0, but I don't know anything about that.   
Photoshop Elements came free with the Epson 2450 I just 
bought.  I am sure it comes free with other hardware... but don't 
ask me which ones.  Or, you can buy it for about $100 from B&H.  

Quick Time VR also stitches images together, but it is quite an 
expensive program and the interface isn't that nice.

If you are working with a PC, there are lots of shareware and 
freeware programs available online, but many of those have 
limits on the file sizes you can stitch.

Good luck,
Justin

iIn DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Stephen Jennings 
<sgjennin@i...> wrote:
> I recently bought a Canon digital camera that came with a 
software program
> called Photo Stitch that allows one to stitch images together 
into single
> panoramas, etc.  It works great with the camera's digital output, 
but it's
> limited when stitching film scans.  Is there a program similar to 
this that
> works well with large scanned files?
>

Check out http://www.panoguide.com/

Reviews, examples, how to's, etc...

-hartphoto

smithj72 wrote:

>Adobe Photoshop Elements has a feature called "Photo Merge," 
>which does the stitching automatically.  It isn't available in 
>Photoshop 6.0; maybe 7.0, but I don't know anything about that.   
>Photoshop Elements came free with the Epson 2450 I just 
>bought. 
>

If you have PS 6 or PS 7 you can get PhotMerge to work in it..

Simply download even a trial copy of Elements, then copy the photomerge 
plugins and a pair of dll's (in Windoze) over to the PS plugins location 
and VOILA it works in Pshop..

I have the names of the actual files you need to copy/move somewhere, if 
you want to try it..
Keith

 

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User Community (highly recommended by Vogon Poets and MegaDodo 
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--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Editor P.O.V. Image 
Service" <editor@p...> wrote:
> 
> 
> smithj72 wrote:
> 
> >Adobe Photoshop Elements has a feature called "Photo Merge," 
> >which does the stitching automatically.  It isn't available in 
> >Photoshop 6.0; maybe 7.0, but I don't know anything about that.   
> >Photoshop Elements came free with the Epson 2450 I just 
> >bought. 
> >
> 
> If you have PS 6 or PS 7 you can get PhotMerge to work in it..
> 
> Simply download even a trial copy of Elements, then copy the 
photomerge 
> plugins and a pair of dll's (in Windoze) over to the PS plugins 
location 
> and VOILA it works in Pshop..
> 
> I have the names of the actual files you need to copy/move 
somewhere, if 
> you want to try it..
> 
Keith, Thanks for the info.  Glad that there is a use to having 
saved the PS Elements disc. What are the dll's that have to be 
copied to the PS plugins location?  Also, what folder would they go 
into?  The "Plugins" folder has several nested folders within.  

Andy

> 
>  
> 
>

I've used this (under various publishers) for a few years and have
stitched images from digi files to large film scans.
 
http://www.panoguide.com/software/reviews/photovista_v20.html
 
Stan Shire
Associate Professor/Department Chair
Photographic Imaging
Community College of Philadelphia
Adobe Photoshop 6 A.C.E.
Author: Hands On Photoshop 7: Tutorial Workshops

215 751-8320
sshire@...

-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Jennings [mailto:sgjennin@...] 
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 8:22 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Photo Stitch
 
I recently bought a Canon digital camera that came with a software
program
called Photo Stitch that allows one to stitch images together into
single
panoramas, etc.  It works great with the camera's digital output, but
it's
limited when stitching film scans.  Is there a program similar to this
that
works well with large scanned files?

STEPHEN    JENNINGS
    P h o t o g r a p h e r
       Cambridge, MA
sgjennin@...



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What do you mean by limited? Memory problems?  How large files?

Jerry

Stephen Jennings wrote:

> 
> I recently bought a Canon digital camera that came with a software program
> called Photo Stitch that allows one to stitch images together into single
> panoramas, etc.  It works great with the camera's digital output, but it's
> limited when stitching film scans.  Is there a program similar to this that
> works well with large scanned files?
> 
> STEPHEN    JENNINGS
>     P h o t o g r a p h e r
>        Cambridge, MA
> sgjennin@...
> 
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Andrew Unger wrote:

> Thanks for the info.  Glad that there is a use to having 
>saved the PS Elements disc.
>
That's exactly how I feel too..  ;-)  A copy with every printer and 
scanner, it gets silly..

> What are the dll's that have to be 
>copied to the PS plugins location?  Also, what folder would they go 
>into?  The "Plugins" folder has several nested folders within.  
>  
>


Copy the following files form your Elements subdirectories into your

\Program Files\Adobe\Photoshop 6.0\Plug-ins\Adobe Photoshop
Only\Automate FOLDER (you may wish to create a new sub-folder of
automate called "From Elements")

PhotomergeAuto.8li (from the Automate folder)

PhotomergeRender.8BF (from the filters folder)
PhotomergeUI.8BF (from the filters folder)

Next copy the following dll's from the Elements main folder into your
photoshop main folder


asn.er.dll
htmlviewlib.dll
sfupload.dll
uid.mr.dll

IF THERE ARE NEWER VERSIONS ALREADY THERE, DO NOT OVERWRITE THEM

VOILA!


Photomerge will work in PShop...


BTW: For the Mac ppl: yes, it can be made to run on a Mac as well..


Keith

 

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40 meg grayscale files from a Polaroid Sprintscan.  I can link 2 scans
together fine, but when I try three I get garbage.  At first it kept running
out of memory so I gave it lots but when I open the image I just lines.  I'm
limiting myself to linking 2 scans at a time at the moment, but I'd really
like to go mental...  Any suggestions?

Stephen

STEPHEN    JENNINGS
    P h o t o g r a p h e r
       Cambridge, MA
sgjennin@...

> From: Jerry Olson <jerryolson@...>
> Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:04:28 -0600
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Photo Stitch
> 
> What do you mean by limited? Memory problems?  How large files?
> 
> Jerry
> 
> Stephen Jennings wrote:
>> 
>> I recently bought a Canon digital camera that came with a software program
>> called Photo Stitch that allows one to stitch images together into single
>> panoramas, etc.  It works great with the camera's digital output, but it's
>> limited when stitching film scans.  Is there a program similar to this that
>> works well with large scanned files?

Looks like it's just what the doctor ordered.  Thanks.

Stephen

STEPHEN    JENNINGS
    P h o t o g r a p h e r
       Cambridge, MA
sgjennin@...

> From: "Shire,Stanley" <sshire@...>
> Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 09:31:04 -0500
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Photo Stitch
> 
> I've used this (under various publishers) for a few years and have
> stitched images from digi files to large film scans.
> 
> http://www.panoguide.com/software/reviews/photovista_v20.html
> 
> Stan Shire
> Associate Professor/Department Chair
> Photographic Imaging
> Community College of Philadelphia
> Adobe Photoshop 6 A.C.E.
> Author: Hands On Photoshop 7: Tutorial Workshops
>

I'm still using Photoshop 5.5 on my Mac.  Time to upgrade...

Stephen

STEPHEN    JENNINGS
    P h o t o g r a p h e r
       Cambridge, MA
sgjennin@...

> From: "smithj72" <smithj72@...>
> Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 02:20:22 -0000
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Photo Stitch
> 
> Adobe Photoshop Elements has a feature called "Photo Merge,"
> which does the stitching automatically.  It isn't available in
> Photoshop 6.0; maybe 7.0, but I don't know anything about that.
> Photoshop Elements came free with the Epson 2450 I just
> bought.  I am sure it comes free with other hardware... but don't
> ask me which ones.  Or, you can buy it for about $100 from B&H.
> 
> Quick Time VR also stitches images together, but it is quite an
> expensive program and the interface isn't that nice.
> 
> If you are working with a PC, there are lots of shareware and
> freeware programs available online, but many of those have
> limits on the file sizes you can stitch.
> 
> Good luck,
> Justin
>

Editor P.O.V. Image Service wrote:
> Copy the following files form your Elements subdirectories into your
>
> \Program Files\Adobe\Photoshop 6.0\Plug-ins\Adobe Photoshop
> Only\Automate FOLDER (you may wish to create a new sub-folder of
> automate called "From Elements")
>
> PhotomergeAuto.8li (from the Automate folder)
>
> PhotomergeRender.8BF (from the filters folder)
> PhotomergeUI.8BF (from the filters folder)
>
> Next copy the following dll's from the Elements main folder into your
> photoshop main folder
>
>
> asn.er.dll
> htmlviewlib.dll
> sfupload.dll
> uid.mr.dll

Thanks for those explicit instructions, Keith. I did as you suggested,
and downloaded the trial version of Elements, and copied the files
across.

The .dll files that came with Elements did not include 'sfupload.dll',
and the Photomerge command won't work in Photoshop 6.0 ('program
error').

Can you give me any more hints?

Peter Marquis-Kyle

Peter Marquis-Kyle wrote:

>The .dll files that came with Elements did not include 'sfupload.dll',
>and the Photomerge command won't work in Photoshop 6.0 ('program
>error').
>
>
>  
>
I'll e-mail a copy of the dll to you offlist.. Let me know if it works 
then..  Very strange that it wasn't in Elements.  Can't imagine how it 
would work without it..


Keith

 

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User Community (highly recommended by Vogon Poets and MegaDodo 
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You probably need more photoshop memory. I have 800 Megabytes just for
photoshop, and haven't had any trouble.

Jerry

Stephen Jennings wrote:

> 
> 40 meg grayscale files from a Polaroid Sprintscan.  I can link 2 scans
> together fine, but when I try three I get garbage.  At first it kept running
> out of memory so I gave it lots but when I open the image I just lines.  I'm
> limiting myself to linking 2 scans at a time at the moment, but I'd really
> like to go mental...  Any suggestions?
> 
> Stephen
> 
> STEPHEN    JENNINGS
>     P h o t o g r a p h e r
>        Cambridge, MA
> sgjennin@...
> 
> > From: Jerry Olson <jerryolson@...>
> > Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:04:28 -0600
> > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Photo Stitch
> >
> > What do you mean by limited? Memory problems?  How large files?
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> > Stephen Jennings wrote:
> >>
> >> I recently bought a Canon digital camera that came with a software program
> >> called Photo Stitch that allows one to stitch images together into single
> >> panoramas, etc.  It works great with the camera's digital output, but it's
> >> limited when stitching film scans.  Is there a program similar to this that
> >> works well with large scanned files?
> 
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In my version of Photoshop Elements, the 'sfupload.dll" file was 
there, but I could not find the 'htmlviewlib.dll' file.  I am using a 
Mac, so I don't know if that makes a difference.  The program 
kind of works in PS6 now, but it really doesnt do a very good job 
of stitching. (?)

Justin

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Editor P.O.V. Image 
Service" <editor@p...> wrote:
> 
> 
> Peter Marquis-Kyle wrote:
> 
> >The .dll files that came with Elements did not include 
'sfupload.dll',
> >and the Photomerge command won't work in Photoshop 6.0 
('program
> >error').
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> I'll e-mail a copy of the dll to you offlist.. Let me know if it works 
> then..  Very strange that it wasn't in Elements.  Can't imagine 
how it 
> would work without it..
> 
> 
> Keith
> 
>  
> 
> "Just some guy," and founder of the Multiverse's largest 
EPSON printer 
> User Community (highly recommended by Vogon Poets and 
MegaDodo 
> Publications), at:
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EPSONx7x_Printers/
>  
> "For the rest of you out there, the secret is to bang the rocks 
together 

> guys"
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

When I upgraded from Photoshop "Elements" to PS7, I mistakenly
thought that I would have all the features of "Elements" PLUS
the advanced features of PS7...  NOT!

The absence of Photo Stitch is just one more disappointment.

Is it possible to have Photoshop "Elements" and PS7 installed 
together on the same computer without problems?  There are
times when I would be more comfortable working in "Elements",
even if it has to be in 8 bit mode.

BTW, I'm running XP Home Edition on a Pentium 4 machine.

Thanks,
Steve T.

Steve,
I run both Elements & PS7 on my machine. I like the
photo stitch feature and the red eye brush in
Elements. I've had no problems running them both on
the same machine. But I'm using Windows 2000P. Don't
know if that makes a difference.

Evelyn

--- "Stephen A. Tucker" <stephentucker@...>
wrote:
> When I upgraded from Photoshop "Elements" to PS7, I
> mistakenly
> thought that I would have all the features of
> "Elements" PLUS
> the advanced features of PS7...  NOT!
> 
> The absence of Photo Stitch is just one more
> disappointment.
> 
> Is it possible to have Photoshop "Elements" and PS7
> installed 
> together on the same computer without problems? 
> There are
> times when I would be more comfortable working in
> "Elements",
> even if it has to be in 8 bit mode.
> 
> BTW, I'm running XP Home Edition on a Pentium 4
> machine.
> 
> Thanks,
> Steve T.
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 


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-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen A. Tucker [mailto:stephentucker@...] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 1:04 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Photo Stitch

When I upgraded from Photoshop "Elements" to PS7, I mistakenly
thought that I would have all the features of "Elements" PLUS
the advanced features of PS7...  NOT!

The absence of Photo Stitch is just one more disappointment.

Is it possible to have Photoshop "Elements" and PS7 installed 
together on the same computer without problems?  There are
times when I would be more comfortable working in "Elements",
even if it has to be in 8 bit mode.

BTW, I'm running XP Home Edition on a Pentium 4 machine.

Thanks,
Steve T.

 




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--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "smithj72" <smithj72@y...> 
wrote:

I just tried this with both PS 6.01 and PS 7, and it seems to run 
just fine... how well it actually stitches is another issue. Last 
time I experimented with stitchers, I went through all but the very 
expensive English one (can't remember the name)and none were perfect 
on any but the best set-up images with obvious high-contrast merge 
points, etc. At any rate, it's a nice new option to have in 
Photoshop, thanks for the info Keith! 

Steve K

http://www.stevekphoto.com
 
> In my version of Photoshop Elements, the 'sfupload.dll" file was 
> there, but I could not find the 'htmlviewlib.dll' file.  I am 
using a 
> Mac, so I don't know if that makes a difference.  The program 
> kind of works in PS6 now, but it really doesnt do a very good job 
> of stitching. (?)
> 
> Justin
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Editor P.O.V. Image 
> Service" <editor@p...> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Peter Marquis-Kyle wrote:
> > 
> > >The .dll files that came with Elements did not include 
> 'sfupload.dll',
> > >and the Photomerge command won't work in Photoshop 6.0 
> ('program
> > >error').
> > >
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > I'll e-mail a copy of the dll to you offlist.. Let me know if it 
works 

> > then..  Very strange that it wasn't in Elements.  Can't imagine 
> how it 
> > would work without it..
> > 
> > 
> > Keith
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > "Just some guy," and founder of the Multiverse's largest 
> EPSON printer 
> > User Community (highly recommended by Vogon Poets and 
> MegaDodo 
> > Publications), at:
> > 
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EPSONx7x_Printers/
> >  
> > "For the rest of you out there, the secret is to bang the rocks 
> together 
> > guys"
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

An important  update is in order

I've been playing with a 2.0 Version of Elements for a few hours..

I can't get the new Version of Photomerge to work in either PhotoShop 6 
or 7...

So, until/unless I or someone else figures out why it won't work, you 
need to get the files I mentioned from a Version 1 Copy of Elements..

However, one thing that you can add to Photoshop 7 from Elements 2  AND 
get to work there is the new "Copy to E-mail plugin."  It'll allow you 
to copy an open JPEG image directly to a new e-mail document. (It will 
use the e-mail program specified in your Windows Options)

The plug-in in question is:

SendEMailEL.8LI

Copy it into your:
\Program Files\Adobe\Photoshop 7.0\Plug-ins\Adobe Photoshop 
Only\Automate FOLDER

You will then find it on startup in your "automate" sub-menu..


The "copy to Email" plugin will NOT work in PhotoShop 6.


Keith

 

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User Community (highly recommended by Vogon Poets and MegaDodo 
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Just install elements, and move the photo merge plugin to the photoshop folder.

Jerry

No problem with both on the same drive.





"Stephen A. Tucker" wrote:

> 
> When I upgraded from Photoshop "Elements" to PS7, I mistakenly
> thought that I would have all the features of "Elements" PLUS
> the advanced features of PS7...  NOT!
> 
> The absence of Photo Stitch is just one more disappointment.
> 
> Is it possible to have Photoshop "Elements" and PS7 installed
> together on the same computer without problems?  There are
> times when I would be more comfortable working in "Elements",
> even if it has to be in 8 bit mode.
> 
> BTW, I'm running XP Home Edition on a Pentium 4 machine.
> 
> Thanks,
> Steve T.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at:
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