Digital BW, The Print

jim hayes wrote:

>  
>
>I've been thinking of doing some b&w prints with small areas of spot 
>color added which IP5 folks tell me is possible IF I run IP5 to print 
>RGB.
>Jim H.
>
>
>  
>
Dunno if you need IP5 to do it...

Haven't tried it with a 2200, BUT amazingly, just recently I ran tests 
on 13 x 19 MIS VM Sepia B&W images printed on EAM..

I printed the B&W portion  on a 1270, then moved over and printed JUST 
the spot color I wanted via Lysonics in a 1280.

Results: there was no appreciable skew and the spot color came out 
exactly in the right spot.

Greg McCoy of EPSON looked at them at PhotoExpo Plus East and we both 
agreed that the registration was "tack on"..  I wouldn't do it for color 
separations, but for the small areas of spot color it worked fine.

The amazing thing to Greg, Bill Gore,  and I was how well it worked even 
given the differing firmware and driver in each printer..

Anyone contemplating printing which may require two runs through an 
EPSON desktop printer should keep these results in mind.

Just make sure you let the prints dry down from the first run before 
doing the second run to keep tracks down and avoid ink deposition on 
transport rollers.

Keith

 

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--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Editor P.O.V. Image 
Service" <editor@p...> wrote:
> 
> 
> jim hayes wrote:
> 
> >  
> >
> >I've been thinking of doing some b&w prints with small areas of 
spot 
> >color added which IP5 folks tell me is possible IF I run IP5 to 
print 
> >RGB.
> >Jim H.
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> Dunno if you need IP5 to do it...
> 
> Haven't tried it with a 2200, BUT amazingly, just recently I ran 
tests 
> on 13 x 19 MIS VM Sepia B&W images printed on EAM..
> 
> I printed the B&W portion  on a 1270, then moved over and printed 
JUST 
> the spot color I wanted via Lysonics in a 1280.
> 
> Results: there was no appreciable skew and the spot color came out 
> exactly in the right spot.
> 


Good gosh, but I heard the Epson desktops don't really have good paper 
sensors. Maybe I heard that wrong. I know that the pro printers have 
something to line up paper, or I have heard this anyway. I even had an 
1280 get confused and send the unprinted paper through and then start 
printing in the printer bed. Messy.

Anyway, this sounds like it is adaptable to the 2200/IP5 if one wanted 
to. The BW part of print would have a tad less color change under 
different lighting this way from what I hear. But it may not be 
signifigantly different from one pass RGB, not having even set up my 
2200 yet.
Jim H.

Rub down these papers with a soft rag like the Ilford Cleaning Cloths.
It GREATLY reduces flaking.  Rub fairly hard.

Jerry




jim hayes wrote:

> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "neilhfolberg"
> <folberg@n...> wrote:
> >
> <snip>
> 
> > > I had more flaking problems then this with photorag. I used
> > William
> > > Turner more and this was also bad. But I must add that the
> > humidity
> > > here is low. What happens after you spot print and frame it,
> > only to
> > > discover that it flakes more hanging on the wall? Or does the
> > fixative
> > > prevent all future flaking?
> >
> > I haven't had the prints hanging yet, but I have been keeping
> > them in a portfolio case and handling them a lot and they haven't
> > flaked.
> 
> I guess this can be representative of putting print through it's
> "paces", flake-wise then. The thing about being behind a frame is that
> you'd have to disassemble it to respot it. And worse than this, if you
> used plexi instead of glass, the static charge buildup might
> contribute to flaking. I put Eclipse behind conservation clear (UV)
> glass and usually don't have problems.
> 
> Btw, I didn't mean to give the impression that I used a LOT of Photo
> Rag, just printed a few samples and gave up. My flaking experiences
> were much more with William Turner...but still both papers are made by
> same company, and my photo Rag samples had flaking.
> 
> > > I've been thinking of doing some b&w prints with small areas
> > of spot
> > > color added which IP5 folks tell me is possible IF I run IP5 to
> > print
> > > RGB.
> >
> > It will work fine - you get perfectly neutral B&W prints using the
> > RGB profiles in IP, all you lose is the "toner" control.
> 
> Thank you- when buying a new printer, other's observations on how good
> it works are crucial. Esp as with IP5 included, this gets pricy for a
> desktop.
> Jim H.
> 
> >
> >  Neil Folberg
> > www.neilfolberg.com
> 
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