Digital BW, The Print

Mark, I'm printing 98% of my work b&w with a 7600 and IP5.  Always a perfect 
tone neutral b&w print. You won't be disapointed with the b&w printing aspect.
David Aschkenas

Does anyone have expeience with the Canon  FS2720U film scanner? How does it work?

Thanks in advance?


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I can only comment on ImagePrint for the 2200, but I am convinced it is the
way to go for B&W printing on this printer, and I highly doubt it would let
you down for the 7600 or 9600.  Still, you might want to make sure there is
a reasonable return policy before spending your money.

Also, if you haven't tried Bill Atkinson's free profiles for your 9600, you
might give them a shot first.  I've seen reports that they work very well.
You can find them on Epson's site:
http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/Redirect.jsp?ygtsi=ICCProfilesStylusPro76
00

I purchased IP because I was unhappy with the default performance of my
2200.  Using the standard profiles and even photo-realistic mode, the prints
looked cool to me and exhibited noticable metamerism.

I tried the gray balancer and quickly grew tired of making iteration after
iteration of tweaks without achieving the holy grail of perfect neutrality.
Besides, the metamerism was still there.

I spent the money for IP and although I think it is pricey, the bottom line
is it works, and it works well.  It is not without problems though.  The
user interface is a bit difficult and I had some installation problems to
overcome.  Once you learn to deal with their interface though, you will be
able to make beautiful B&W prints with little effort.

As a comparison, I just spent 2 hours playing with Epson's new Stylus RIP
for the 2200.  I have to say I'm not impressed.  A print of a grayscale step
wedge shows noticable magenta and cyan tones in various patches, and their
grayscale mode printed a horrible step wedge that went solid black in the
90% patch.  Granted, it gives you more knobs to turn than the Epson driver,
and I could probably get much better results by spending more time with it,
but I've realized that you can spend an entire lifetime adjusting profiles
and evaluating step wedges.  IP handles all that for you and lets you get
back to printing real images.

--Tom

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Carter" <mc_776@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 9:12 PM
Subject: [Digital BW] ImagePrint Sale


> Tom,
>
> I ONLY want to print to one printer (9600).  I want to print black & white
> with the 9600 and Colorbyte has a gray picker.  Inkjetmall has a sale
going

> on the large format version for windows and I can save $750. Is it
> everything Colorbyte cracks it up to be?
>
> Mark
>

What does the U stand for?  I have the FS2 720 and it works great.

Jerry



Stuart Phillips wrote:

> 
> Does anyone have expeience with the Canon  FS2720U film scanner? How does it work?
> 
> Thanks in advance?
> 
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Hello All,
Are you folks using ImagePrint using the raster only version or the  
postscript version? I have a 2200, 1200, and 3000.

Thanks,
trish
On Sunday, February 2, 2003, at 09:02  PM, Thomas Fors wrote:

> I can only comment on ImagePrint for the 2200, but I am convinced it  
> is the
> way to go for B&W printing on this printer, and I highly doubt it  
> would let
> you down for the 7600 or 9600.  Still, you might want to make sure  
> there is
> a reasonable return policy before spending your money.
>
> Also, if you haven't tried Bill Atkinson's free profiles for your  
> 9600, you
> might give them a shot first.  I've seen reports that they work very  
> well.
> You can find them on Epson's site:
> http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/ 
> Redirect.jsp?ygtsi=ICCProfilesStylusPro76
> 00
>
> I purchased IP because I was unhappy with the default performance of my
> 2200.  Using the standard profiles and even photo-realistic mode, the  
> prints
> looked cool to me and exhibited noticable metamerism.
>
> I tried the gray balancer and quickly grew tired of making iteration  
> after
> iteration of tweaks without achieving the holy grail of perfect  
> neutrality.
> Besides, the metamerism was still there.
>
> I spent the money for IP and although I think it is pricey, the bottom  
> line
> is it works, and it works well.  It is not without problems though.   
> The
> user interface is a bit difficult and I had some installation problems  
> to
> overcome.  Once you learn to deal with their interface though, you  
> will be
> able to make beautiful B&W prints with little effort.
>
> As a comparison, I just spent 2 hours playing with Epson's new Stylus  
> RIP
> for the 2200.  I have to say I'm not impressed.  A print of a  
> grayscale step
> wedge shows noticable magenta and cyan tones in various patches, and  
> their
> grayscale mode printed a horrible step wedge that went solid black in  
> the
> 90% patch.  Granted, it gives you more knobs to turn than the Epson  
> driver,
> and I could probably get much better results by spending more time  
> with it,
> but I've realized that you can spend an entire lifetime adjusting  
> profiles
> and evaluating step wedges.  IP handles all that for you and lets you  
> get
> back to printing real images.
>
> --Tom
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Carter" <mc_776@...>
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 9:12 PM
> Subject: [Digital BW] ImagePrint Sale
>
>
>> Tom,
>>
>> I ONLY want to print to one printer (9600).  I want to print black &  
>> white
>> with the 9600 and Colorbyte has a gray picker.  Inkjetmall has a sale
> going
>> on the large format version for windows and I can save $750. Is it
>> everything Colorbyte cracks it up to be?
>>
>> Mark
>>
>
>
>
> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls  
> and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at:
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~t

Patricia Ternahan
Gentlelens Photography

You are invited to visit:
http://www.gentlelens.com
and
http://www.familyofman2.com

I'm using the raster only version since I only print Photoshop images.  I
usually save them as a tiff and then print directly from ImagePrint.  I
think you would need the postscript version if you wanted to print from
something like Illustrator as well.

----- Original Message -----

From: "patricia ternahan" <ternahan@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] ImagePrint Sale


> Hello All,
> Are you folks using ImagePrint using the raster only version or the
> postscript version? I have a 2200, 1200, and 3000.
>
> Thanks,
> trish

Thanks, that is what i needed to know.
t
On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 10:26  PM, Thomas Fors wrote:

> I'm using the raster only version since I only print Photoshop images. 
>  I
> usually save them as a tiff and then print directly from ImagePrint.  I
> think you would need the postscript version if you wanted to print from
> something like Illustrator as well.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "patricia ternahan" <ternahan@...>
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 2:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] ImagePrint Sale
>
>
>> Hello All,
>> Are you folks using ImagePrint using the raster only version or the
>> postscript version? I have a 2200, 1200, and 3000.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> trish
>
>
>
> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls 
> and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at:
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint
>
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> various resources on the homepage.
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>
>
~t

Patricia Ternahan
Gentlelens Photography

You are invited to visit:
http://www.gentlelens.com
and
http://www.familyofman2.com