Digital BW, The Print

> 
> Also, whenever I see people talk about MIS VM inks, I never see
> mention of metamerism.  Is this because it does not exist???  Please
> say yes.  :)
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "carlislematthew
> <carlislematthew@h...>" <carlislematthew@h...> wrote:
> > Here's how it happened, from start to beginning.  Please excuse the
> > terseness, but I'm sure you've all heard it before so I'll try and
> be
> > brief.  The question is at the end if you want to skip the crap.
> >
> > -Bought 1280.  Loved it from the start, but paper choice and
> profiles
> > sucked for "archival" color work.  B&W using color sucked more.
> >
> > -Didn't like the idea of paying hundreds for Piezography or similar
> > system, so never bought that.  Didn't know about MIS inks or
> similar
> > things at the time.  I wish I had known about this forum!!!
> >
> > -2200 came out!  Reviews (not from Epson) talked about how
> wonderful
> > the B&W output was.  No metarism apparantly, and anyway I had no
> idea
> > what the hell that actually meant.  Had gray balancer - wonderful!
> >
> > -Bought 2200.  Color work is excellent.  Can use favorite semi-
> gloss
> > paper without it looking like crap, and it will last more than a
> year
> > or two, so I can now give pictures away without feeling cheap.
> >
> > -B&W not so good.  Getting neutral gray almost impossible even with
> > gray balancer.  I start to quickly learn about metamerism in the
> same
> > way that you learn very quickly about a rare disease you just
> > caught.  I wasted about 100 bucks on paper and inks with Gray
> > balancer and still am not there.
> >
> > -Start looking into these RIPs.  Download PowerRIP demo (thanks
> > Daniel).  Actually looks pretty damn good (I recommend trying it),
> > but still is not there for me because I'm just really fussy.  0-10%
> > looks fairly dotty.  Thought about IP5, but 500 bucks is a bit
> much.
> > Metamerism still exists but it is VERY reduced over normal color
> > B&W.  Can't say why - no flatbed scanner or microscope.
> >
> > -Use BO mode.  Awful awful awful.  I agree with Peter that some
> > people just can't see the dots.  That's great for them, but it
> really
> > bugs me.  It just doesn't look smooth.  Not good enough.  Bah.
> >
> > -I start to look over at my old 1280 sitting in the corner.  I
> never
> > got round to selling it, and that would probably only get me about
> > 200 bucks.  Can't get Imageprint for 200 bucks, PowerRIP still
> > doesn't cut it at that price.
> >
> > So that's my history in B&W printing.  Thank God I live in Seattle
> > and the thought of being outside taking pictures is just nowhere in
> > my mind.  If I lived somewhere nice I'd feel bad that I have spent
> > all this time on my "photography hobby" with nothing to show for it.
> >
> > Why am bothering to tell you all this?  Well, I'm thinking about
> > using the old 1280 with MIS VM inks and those Roark curves.  From
> > reading other posts it seems like I might up and running in an
> > evening or two, especially as I'm quite good with printing step
> > wedges and messing around with curves.
> >
> > Would anyone else recommend this as a good setup?  Anyone else had
> > the same experience and gone back to the old, rejected Epson?
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> >
> >    Matthew
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