Digital BW, The Print

> 
> Jerry,
> 
> >... about to load a regular set of VM inks with the Eboni Black
> >into my new CIS tomorrow.
> >What is the difference between the 5 gray MIS VM inks and the
> >5 gray Ultratone inks?
> 
> The inks are totally new, but with the same densities.  So, they'll work
> with the same old curves.  The new gray inks are a bit warmer.
> 
> > What are the advantages of the ultratones?
> >I understand the Ultratones are more archival,
> 
> Yes.  And there will be no initial warming that many noticed with the first
> generation of B&W inksets.
> 
> > but give about the same quality prints?
> 
> I think the tone is better and the useful range greater.  The toner this
> time is mixed to give a "lightly-selenium-toned" silver print look with the
> "nc" curve.  Since there is no warming, I did not build in any coolness to
> offset that.
> 
> For many the RC compatibility is going to be a big plus.  I have no doubt
> that the paper/chemical industries will figure out how to make a surface
> that duplicates the "air dried silver print" look so many of us found to be
> about the best there is.  Also, the chemical industry has proved itself very
> capable of producing substances that never deteriorate in the environment.
> So, I expect archival RC papers soon.
> 
> >There are just too many inks out there now.
> 
> If I were MIS, not only would the VM/FS black disappear, but so would the
> MIS VM inkset.
> 
> > The piezotone selenium inkset and the
> >black black sure do look nice...
> 
> If you like PiezoTone Selenium, you'll like the new Ultra-Tone B&W with the
> "nc" curve.  It looks almost identical to the PT-S on EAM.
> 
> >Wonder how they'd look with the Eboni
> >black replacing the "black black"?
> 
> I expect the "black black" is darker than the Eboni.  However, I don't know
> in real images that are not side-by-side how much it matters.
> 
> Paul
> http://www.PaulRoark.com
> 
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> Jerry wrote:
> 
> >I did a "brush test" last night between the eboni and
> >the Enhanced black. I was quite surprised to see that
> >the eboni ink is shiny, almost glossy.
> 
> That is the look I saw on the dip test.  It apparently overloads the paper.
> The printed 100% patch I sent to you has none of that character and has a
> higher dmax.
> 
> >... I didn't get the full set of 4.3 inks because they
> >wouldn't guarantee them, ...
> 
> MIS wants a number of people with different printers to try the ink before
> sticking it's neck out too far.  The only printers I have tried them on are
> the 1160 and 7500.  I obviously expect them to perform as well on other
> printers, but one never knows for sure.
> 
> Paul
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