Digital BW, The Print

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Charles Bandes 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 2:35 PM
  Subject: [Digital BW] Re: MIS-VM Roark Curves Mac 1280-PS6 v PS7?


  Yes!

  The 1280-mac curves print _terribly_ under PS7 on a mac.

  I have much much better luck with the 1290 curves or the Tyler Boley curves or QuadtoneRIP (all free)

  --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Happy Eyeball" <jeffrey.groups@h...> wrote:
  > Hi all,
  > 
  > I've been printing pretty successfully using MIS-VM inks with a 1280 on a
  > Mac, Paul's curves as specified, EEM. System 9.x Photoshop 6. (The cooler
  > the curve the "grainier" the midtones appear, but that's another story.)
  > 
  > I just tried printing everything the same way except via PS7. Results are
  > lousy. It's like my tonal curve developed a large flat spot from about zone
  > iii to zone vi. Mush.
  > 
  > Is it just me, or is this difference apparent to anyone else?
  > 
  > Cheers, JDF
  > 
  > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
  > Jeffrey Fass
  > The Happy Eyeball
  > http://www.happyeyeball.com/
  > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


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> 
> Yes!
> 
> The 1280-mac curves print _terribly_ under PS7 on a mac.
> 
> I have much much better luck with the 1290 curves or the Tyler Boley curves or QuadtoneRIP (all free)
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Happy Eyeball" <jeffrey.groups@h...> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I've been printing pretty successfully using MIS-VM inks with a 1280 on a
> > Mac, Paul's curves as specified, EEM. System 9.x Photoshop 6. (The cooler
> > the curve the "grainier" the midtones appear, but that's another story.)
> >
> > I just tried printing everything the same way except via PS7. Results are
> > lousy. It's like my tonal curve developed a large flat spot from about zone
> > iii to zone vi. Mush.
> >
> > Is it just me, or is this difference apparent to anyone else?
> >
> > Cheers, JDF
> >
> > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > Jeffrey Fass
> > The Happy Eyeball
> > http://www.happyeyeball.com/
> > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
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> Charles, 
> 
> I get excellent prints using a 1280 on a mac with VM inks and Paul
> Roark's curves using Photoshop 7.
> 
> My settings are Adobe RGB space, Heavyweight Matte paper media setting,
> check "Color Controls", then automatic in the epson dialogue box, and
> "Same as Source" in the final print dialogue box.
> 
> Jerry   
>

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jerry Olson 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 7:23 PM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: MIS-VM Roark Curves Mac 1280-PS6 v PS7?


  Charles, 

  I get excellent prints using a 1280 on a mac with VM inks and Paul
  Roark's curves using Photoshop 7.

  My settings are Adobe RGB space, Heavyweight Matte paper media setting,
  check "Color Controls", then automatic in the epson dialogue box, and
  "Same as Source" in the final print dialogue box.

  Jerry   




  Charles Bandes wrote:
  > 
  > Yes!
  > 
  > The 1280-mac curves print _terribly_ under PS7 on a mac.
  > 
  > I have much much better luck with the 1290 curves or the Tyler Boley curves or QuadtoneRIP (all free)
  > 
  > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Happy Eyeball" <jeffrey.groups@h...> wrote:
  > > Hi all,
  > >
  > > I've been printing pretty successfully using MIS-VM inks with a 1280 on a
  > > Mac, Paul's curves as specified, EEM. System 9.x Photoshop 6. (The cooler
  > > the curve the "grainier" the midtones appear, but that's another story.)
  > >
  > > I just tried printing everything the same way except via PS7. Results are
  > > lousy. It's like my tonal curve developed a large flat spot from about zone
  > > iii to zone vi. Mush.
  > >
  > > Is it just me, or is this difference apparent to anyone else?
  > >
  > > Cheers, JDF
  > >
  > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
  > > Jeffrey Fass
  > > The Happy Eyeball
  > > http://www.happyeyeball.com/
  > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
  > 
  > 
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> > "Same as Source" in the final print dialogue box.
> > 
> > Jerry   
> >

> 
> Heavyweight Matt, not Photo Paper?
> 
> Jeffrey
> http://www.happyeyball.com
> 
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Jerry Olson
>   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 7:23 PM
>   Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: MIS-VM Roark Curves Mac 1280-PS6 v PS7?
> 
>   Charles,
> 
>   I get excellent prints using a 1280 on a mac with VM inks and Paul
>   Roark's curves using Photoshop 7.
> 
>   My settings are Adobe RGB space, Heavyweight Matte paper media setting,
>   check "Color Controls", then automatic in the epson dialogue box, and
>   "Same as Source" in the final print dialogue box.
> 
>   Jerry
> 
>   Charles Bandes wrote:
>   >
>   > Yes!
>   >
>   > The 1280-mac curves print _terribly_ under PS7 on a mac.
>   >
>   > I have much much better luck with the 1290 curves or the Tyler Boley curves or QuadtoneRIP (all free)
>   >
>   > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Happy Eyeball" <jeffrey.groups@h...> wrote:
>   > > Hi all,
>   > >
>   > > I've been printing pretty successfully using MIS-VM inks with a 1280 on a
>   > > Mac, Paul's curves as specified, EEM. System 9.x Photoshop 6. (The cooler
>   > > the curve the "grainier" the midtones appear, but that's another story.)
>   > >
>   > > I just tried printing everything the same way except via PS7. Results are
>   > > lousy. It's like my tonal curve developed a large flat spot from about zone
>   > > iii to zone vi. Mush.
>   > >
>   > > Is it just me, or is this difference apparent to anyone else?
>   > >
>   > > Cheers, JDF
>   > >
>   > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>   > > Jeffrey Fass
>   > > The Happy Eyeball
>   > > http://www.happyeyeball.com/
>   > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>   > >
>   > >
>   > >
>   > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>   >
>   >
>   > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at:
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