Digital BW, The Print

Andre, I used to use BS SM but now use the Ilford Classic pearl or gloss
papers - note they also do a quickdry alternative but with poorer
archival-ness.

Julian
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andr\ufffd Vallejo" <avs@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 4:36 PM
Subject: [Digital BW] Brightcube semi-matte similars


> After a while printing FS inks on Brightcube semi-matte (sprayed under
> Morrison's advise) I'm very fond of it(though bronzing is never 100%
gone).
> Now it's almost out of stock here at home,and it looks like it's not being
> made anymore,so I'm looking for the closest replacement. How Epson luster
> compare? What about other papers?
> Thanks,
> Andr\ufffd Vallejo
>
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Julian,
      You've mentioned several times your success with Illord Classic 
Pearl or Gloss, but if you've ever spelled out your workflow, I 
missed it.  Could you tell the lame and halting one more time (1) 
what paper profile you use, (2)how you do your coating, (3)any 
observations on pearl vs. gloss, and (4)whether such prints can only 
be displayed under glass?

Thanks,
Bill Iverson


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Julian Thomas" 
<julianthomas@t...> wrote:
> Andre, I used to use BS SM but now use the Ilford Classic pearl or 
gloss
> papers - note they also do a quickdry alternative but with poorer
> archival-ness.
> 
> Julian
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "André Vallejo" <avs@p...>
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 4:36 PM
> Subject: [Digital BW] Brightcube semi-matte similars
> 
> 
> > After a while printing FS inks on Brightcube semi-matte (sprayed 
under
> > Morrison's advise) I'm very fond of it(though bronzing is never 
100%
> gone).
> > Now it's almost out of stock here at home,and it looks like it's 
not being
> > made anymore,so I'm looking for the closest replacement. How 
Epson luster
> > compare? What about other papers?
> > Thanks,
> > André Vallejo
> >
> >
> >
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Sunday, March 30, 2003, 6:36:44 AM, Andr\ufffd Vallejo wrote:

AV> After a while printing FS inks on Brightcube semi-matte (sprayed under
AV> Morrison's advise) I'm very fond of it(though bronzing is never 100% gone).
AV> Now it's almost out of stock here at home,and it looks like it's not being
AV> made anymore,so I'm looking for the closest replacement. How Epson luster
AV> compare? What about other papers?
AV> Thanks,
AV> Andr\ufffd Vallejo


Andre,

I believe the same exact stuff is now called Red Rock Innovations
Semi-Matte sold from www.inkjetgoodies.com. I use it mostly in my 2200
for color work since I've created a great custom profile for it using
Profile Prism. It's about half the cost of Epson Lustre and I think as
good.

I might try some in my 1160 with I use with FS-N inks now that you
have mentioned it.  What do you use to spray it?

Best regards,
 Richard  

mailto:richard@...

L i n k s  t o  m y  g a l l e r i e s:
http://fujirangefinder.com/document.php?id=246

Bill, my workflow depends on how energetic my printers are feeling. If they
are in a good mood I use Piezo with Epson Gloss profile and a curves action
to modify it for the Ilford. If not I use the randall rgb workflow with a
modified curves action. ( I prefer the pearl to the gloss) I spray using a
spray made by Ghiant and sold by Mwords - I've tried loads and this goes on
the best. A thorough coat just after printing and another one later if the
coat isn't even. I've sold several such prints framed and matted. I also use
it with Lincoln dyes for colour. The quickdry papers are slightly heavier
and great for work prints.

Julian

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Iverson" <wiverson@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 2:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Brightcube semi-matte similars


Julian,
      You've mentioned several times your success with Illord Classic
Pearl or Gloss, but if you've ever spelled out your workflow, I
missed it.  Could you tell the lame and halting one more time (1)
what paper profile you use, (2)how you do your coating, (3)any
observations on pearl vs. gloss, and (4)whether such prints can only
be displayed under glass?

Thanks,
Bill Iverson


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Julian Thomas"
<julianthomas@t...> wrote:
> Andre, I used to use BS SM but now use the Ilford Classic pearl or
gloss
> papers - note they also do a quickdry alternative but with poorer
> archival-ness.
>
> Julian
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andr\ufffd Vallejo" <avs@p...>
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 4:36 PM
> Subject: [Digital BW] Brightcube semi-matte similars
>
>
> > After a while printing FS inks on Brightcube semi-matte (sprayed
under
> > Morrison's advise) I'm very fond of it(though bronzing is never
100%
> gone).
> > Now it's almost out of stock here at home,and it looks like it's
not being
> > made anymore,so I'm looking for the closest replacement. How
Epson luster
> > compare? What about other papers?
> > Thanks,
> > Andr\ufffd Vallejo
> >
> >
> >
> > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks,
Polls and
> other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at:
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