Digital BW, The Print

I have the same question as DL, however I'm printing with the Canon i950.  I
tend to get a green cast and have to adjust magenta slightly.

Any tips greatly appreciated.

I'm using an Epson 1280 with Piezo Tone Museum Tone cartridges and Image export BW software and Hahnemuhle Photo Rag paper and experience excellent results. I will be switching to Continuous Inking System once I run out of ink in the cartridges(probably very soon). 
  Best of luck!

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: digital_lipothymy 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2003 8:22 PM
  Subject: [Digital BW] Black and White Printing on an Epson 1280


  Greetings

  I would like to know if anyone is having satisfactory results 
  printing QUALITY B+W images, using the Epson 1280.

  Are you using custom profiles, or Adobe Gamma?

  Anything else that you can tell me regarding Paper Type, Settings 
  used , etc., would be greatly appreciated.

  Thank You

  DL


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I am having good results with the MIS VM-S inkset (neutral to somewhat warm,
my taste) and their CIS, though you can get individual cartridges.  Arches
Infinity paper (best, esp if not under glass) or Epson EEM, using the Paul
Roark curves for this inkset.  I gave up on color inks to do b&w some time
back, a waste of time IMHO.  The Paul Roark NCA vm-nw curve, my favorite,
produces a warm-tone print with the six-ink set.  The NCA vm-w curve
produces a neutral b&w print.  You can even go to a sepia if you like that.
Excellent service - whenever something goes wrong I get a replacement part
by UPS in a couple of days (if you call --they're not into the email thing
100%).  I understand the MIS Ultra-tone set has a longer display life and
goes to a cool tone, but I have not yet tried that.  This is with PS7.  It's
all on the MIS site, missupply.com.  Right now I don't have a need for
prints larger than 13x19m, so it's a good economical solution...if you can
live with matte paper.  Supposedly Oriental is introducing a paper that
replicates its famed air-dried fibre glossy paper (of which I've used many
M's of sheets in the darkroom), but I'll believe that when I see it.  Good
luck to you.

Regards,

  --Ken Carney
    www.kencarney.com



----- Original Message -----
From: "digital_lipothymy" <DigitalLipothymy@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2003 7:22 PM
Subject: [Digital BW] Black and White Printing on an Epson 1280


> Greetings
>
> I would like to know if anyone is having satisfactory results
> printing QUALITY B+W images, using the Epson 1280.
>
> Are you using custom profiles, or Adobe Gamma?
>
> Anything else that you can tell me regarding Paper Type, Settings
> used , etc., would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thank You
>
> DL
>
>
>
> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and
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>
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Hi,

Do you have a dedicated printer just for B&W?  Is it easy to
switch from the MIS Quadtone cartridges to color ink cartridges?
Or do I need to use some sort of cleaning system whenever I switch?
The reason I ask is because buying another 1280 printer used
exclusively for B&W is not in my budget right now.  I would like
to print both color and B&W from the same printer without
screwing things up.

Thanks

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Ken Carney"
<kcarney1@c...> wrote:
> I am having good results with the MIS VM-S inkset (neutral to
somewhat warm,
> my taste) and their CIS, though you can get individual cartridges. 
Arches
> Infinity paper (best, esp if not under glass) or Epson EEM, using
the Paul
> Roark curves for this inkset.  I gave up on color inks to do b&w
some time
> back, a waste of time IMHO.  The Paul Roark NCA vm-nw curve, my
favorite,
> produces a warm-tone print with the six-ink set.  The NCA vm-w curve
> produces a neutral b&w print.  You can even go to a sepia if you
like that.
> Excellent service - whenever something goes wrong I get a
replacement part
> by UPS in a couple of days (if you call --they're not into the email
thing
> 100%).  I understand the MIS Ultra-tone set has a longer display
life and
> goes to a cool tone, but I have not yet tried that.  This is with
PS7.  It's
> all on the MIS site, missupply.com.  Right now I don't have a need for
> prints larger than 13x19m, so it's a good economical solution...if
you can
> live with matte paper.  Supposedly Oriental is introducing a paper that
> replicates its famed air-dried fibre glossy paper (of which I've
used many
> M's of sheets in the darkroom), but I'll believe that when I see it.
 Good
> luck to you.
> 
> Regards,
> 
>   --Ken Carney
>     www.kencarney.com
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "digital_lipothymy" <DigitalLipothymy@a...>
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2003 7:22 PM
> Subject: [Digital BW] Black and White Printing on an Epson 1280
> 
> 
> > Greetings
> >
> > I would like to know if anyone is having satisfactory results
> > printing QUALITY B+W images, using the Epson 1280.
> >
> > Are you using custom profiles, or Adobe Gamma?
> >
> > Anything else that you can tell me regarding Paper Type, Settings
> > used , etc., would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Thank You
> >
> > DL
> >
> >
> >
> > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks,
Polls and
> other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at:
> >
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint
> >
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> >
> >
> >

Hi,

I am using the ultratones in the 1280. I just bought a CIS from MIS.
Switching to other inks is not an option with a CIS. However, if you
use cartridges you are supposed to be able to switch them in and out.
MIS just advice you to go over a few cleaning cycles, which the
printer does in a few seconds using an epson utility.

Manuel Toledo 

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "rasan_rasch"
<rasan_rasch@y...> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Do you have a dedicated printer just for B&W?  Is it easy to
> switch from the MIS Quadtone cartridges to color ink cartridges?
> Or do I need to use some sort of cleaning system whenever I switch?
> The reason I ask is because buying another 1280 printer used
> exclusively for B&W is not in my budget right now.  I would like
> to print both color and B&W from the same printer without
> screwing things up.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Ken Carney"
> <kcarney1@c...> wrote:
> > I am having good results with the MIS VM-S inkset (neutral to
> somewhat warm,
> > my taste) and their CIS, though you can get individual cartridges. 
> Arches
> > Infinity paper (best, esp if not under glass) or Epson EEM, using
> the Paul
> > Roark curves for this inkset.  I gave up on color inks to do b&w
> some time
> > back, a waste of time IMHO.  The Paul Roark NCA vm-nw curve, my
> favorite,
> > produces a warm-tone print with the six-ink set.  The NCA vm-w curve
> > produces a neutral b&w print.  You can even go to a sepia if you
> like that.
> > Excellent service - whenever something goes wrong I get a
> replacement part
> > by UPS in a couple of days (if you call --they're not into the email
> thing
> > 100%).  I understand the MIS Ultra-tone set has a longer display
> life and
> > goes to a cool tone, but I have not yet tried that.  This is with
> PS7.  It's
> > all on the MIS site, missupply.com.  Right now I don't have a need for
> > prints larger than 13x19m, so it's a good economical solution...if
> you can
> > live with matte paper.  Supposedly Oriental is introducing a paper
that

> > replicates its famed air-dried fibre glossy paper (of which I've
> used many
> > M's of sheets in the darkroom), but I'll believe that when I see it.
>  Good
> > luck to you.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> >   --Ken Carney
> >     www.kencarney.com
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "digital_lipothymy" <DigitalLipothymy@a...>
> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2003 7:22 PM
> > Subject: [Digital BW] Black and White Printing on an Epson 1280
> > 
> > 
> > > Greetings
> > >
> > > I would like to know if anyone is having satisfactory results
> > > printing QUALITY B+W images, using the Epson 1280.
> > >
> > > Are you using custom profiles, or Adobe Gamma?
> > >
> > > Anything else that you can tell me regarding Paper Type, Settings
> > > used , etc., would be greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > > Thank You
> > >
> > > DL
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks,
> Polls and
> > other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at:
> > >
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint
> > >
> > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you
> wish to
> > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting
> this same
> > page.
> > >
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> to keep
> > them short.
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> > resources on the homepage.
> > >
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> > >

----- Original Message ----- 

From: "rasan_rasch" <rasan_rasch@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Black and White Printing on an Epson 1280


> Hi,
>
> Do you have a dedicated printer just for B&W?  Is it easy to
> switch from the MIS Quadtone cartridges to color ink cartridges?
> Or do I need to use some sort of cleaning system whenever I switch?
> The reason I ask is because buying another 1280 printer used
> exclusively for B&W is not in my budget right now.  I would like
> to print both color and B&W from the same printer without
> screwing things up.
>
Rasan,

You can switch back and forth without using cleaning cartridges with these
inks but you will not save any money doing this. You will waste so much ink,
MIS and Epson, doing the switch you will spend more than the cost of a new
1280 very quickly!

The most cost effect solution over say a one year period is to buy a 1280,
CIS and bulk inks.


Martin Wesley

http://www.borderless-photos.de/guests.html