Digital BW, The Print

Have been lurking for several weeks now.  Based on my photo-mentor's 
advice I have purchased the Epson 2200 for color work leaving my 
2000P sitting useless on my desktop.  I am asking for ANY and ALL 
suggestions as to the value of, the how to, and the specific types 
of conversion to all B&W for this printer.  I am not a professional 
but an enthusiast with much to learn.  Thanks for any and all help.

Barbara Woolner

I made some curves for the 2000p and the PC that allow it to use the MIS
variable-tone inksets.  That machine with the MIS Ultra Tone inkset may be
an excellent way to go.

Paul
http://www.PaulRoark.com
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Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 12:32 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Epson 2000P as Dedicated B/W Printer


Have been lurking for several weeks now.  Based on my photo-mentor's
advice I have purchased the Epson 2200 for color work leaving my
2000P sitting useless on my desktop.  I am asking for ANY and ALL
suggestions as to the value of, the how to, and the specific types
of conversion to all B&W for this printer.  I am not a professional
but an enthusiast with much to learn.  Thanks for any and all help.

Barbara Woolner



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Anyone who has managed to get a god workflow/curves
with the MIS Ultra Tone VM for the 2000p on a Mac?
Thanks for any and all help.
Hans

>I made some curves for the 2000p and the PC that allow it to use the MIS
>variable-tone inksets.  That machine with the MIS Ultra Tone inkset may be
>an excellent way to go.
>
>Paul


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Hi all,

Is anyone using the 2000p as a black-only printer?  I
have a recently deceased 860 at my side which did a
great job with black only printing.  

For historical record, I have walked the green mile
(piezography w/ piezotones) as well as burning through
a CIS of Full Spectrum inks.  Not being really content
with either quadtone set, I tried the b.o. printing -
and the simplest solution was indeed the best solution
for my work.  

Now, as I am in need of replacing my printer, I would
prefer to have a larger size print, and am caught
between the 1280, 2000p, and the 2200.  I really don't
have a need or want the 2200 (spendy) and the 1160's
are getting a bit long in the tooth.  Is anyone using
the 2000p as a black only printer? I am very
interested in your thoughts.  Additionally, I am not
dedicated to Epson if anyone is having success with
Canon or HP's wide format printers.

Thanks for your time,
Don 





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I am trying my 2000P as a black only printer. I have been very happy 
with some of the results and very unhappy with others.
It seems to be very dependent on the paper as to how I like it.
I have done a side by side comparison with a 1280 and my 2000P using 
the same digi file and I liked the 2000P better.
BTW I saw that epson is selling referbished 2000P for just under $300
I hope this helps
Michael
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "D. Hill" 
<hill14701@y...> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Is anyone using the 2000p as a black-only printer?  I
> have a recently deceased 860 at my side which did a
> great job with black only printing.  
> 
> For historical record, I have walked the green mile
> (piezography w/ piezotones) as well as burning through
> a CIS of Full Spectrum inks.  Not being really content
> with either quadtone set, I tried the b.o. printing -
> and the simplest solution was indeed the best solution
> for my work.  
> 
> Now, as I am in need of replacing my printer, I would
> prefer to have a larger size print, and am caught
> between the 1280, 2000p, and the 2200.  I really don't
> have a need or want the 2200 (spendy) and the 1160's
> are getting a bit long in the tooth.  Is anyone using
> the 2000p as a black only printer? I am very
> interested in your thoughts.  Additionally, I am not
> dedicated to Epson if anyone is having success with
> Canon or HP's wide format printers.
> 
> Thanks for your time,
> Don 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> __________________________________
> Do you Yahoo!?
> SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!
> http://sbc.yahoo.com

I sold my 2000P and got the 2200.  As far as b/w printing goes, I 
was often getting better prints with the 2000P and black ink only.   
The 2000P prints a bit chunky and the Ansel Adams crowd would 
snicker, but the blacks are great and more archival than almost 
anything out there.   The 2200 has required so much tinkering 
with add on software that it is a bit frustrating.  Occasionally it 
delivers a truly wonderful b/w though.  The 2000P and black ink 
only is good for the Robert Frank school with its grainy look.  The 
2200 is good for those of us who like to bang our heads against 
the wall.

Frank
http://www.culturalvisions.com

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, 
"michael332720" <mbradtke@j...> wrote:
> I am trying my 2000P as a black only printer. I have been very 
happy 
> with some of the results and very unhappy with others.
> It seems to be very dependent on the paper as to how I like it.
> I have done a side by side comparison with a 1280 and my 
2000P using 
> the same digi file and I liked the 2000P better.
> BTW I saw that epson is selling referbished 2000P for just 
under $300
> I hope this helps
> Michael
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "D. 
Hill" 

> <hill14701@y...> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > Is anyone using the 2000p as a black-only printer?  I
> > have a recently deceased 860 at my side which did a
> > great job with black only printing.  
> > 
> > For historical record, I have walked the green mile
> > (piezography w/ piezotones) as well as burning through
> > a CIS of Full Spectrum inks.  Not being really content
> > with either quadtone set, I tried the b.o. printing -
> > and the simplest solution was indeed the best solution
> > for my work.  
> > 
> > Now, as I am in need of replacing my printer, I would
> > prefer to have a larger size print, and am caught
> > between the 1280, 2000p, and the 2200.  I really don't
> > have a need or want the 2200 (spendy) and the 1160's
> > are getting a bit long in the tooth.  Is anyone using
> > the 2000p as a black only printer? I am very
> > interested in your thoughts.  Additionally, I am not
> > dedicated to Epson if anyone is having success with
> > Canon or HP's wide format printers.
> > 
> > Thanks for your time,
> > Don 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > __________________________________
> > Do you Yahoo!?
> > SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!
> > http://sbc.yahoo.com

I was quite successful in using the 2000P as a 'Four' color printer 
with the MIS FSe inkset and Gen4 K and the stock Epson color curve:

I modified a Tint curve under PictureWindows to use K from 100%-94%, 
transition to C to 80%, then transition to allowing the Epson driver 
create the 'grey' shades from 80% to 50% with C M Y and from 50% to 0% 
with the LC LM Y inks. It works well.

I doubt I will be using my E2000P again, as I am most satisfied with 
the results I am obtaining with my E3000 in the wider format, so it 
may be for sale - if interested, contact me off the Group, please.

PicWin Tint curve: free.

Best,
Alex
Orlando Fla