Digital BW, The Print

This is probably more of a computer problem than a PS problem. Myself 
I've never understood why photoshop takes so long - I suspect it is a 
dinosaur that needs to be completely rewritten which will probably never 
happen.

What I think you probably saw was an OS problem. Windows after it has 
been up for a long period of time - especially if you have run 
applications that require a lot of memory - will get corrupted and many 
things will not be done correctly. Windows memory management is not very 
good. A reboot will solve the problem.

This is the very reason that although we have tried many times in the 
past to use high end PC for digital signal processing applications 
Windows always fails because of system reliability. The only way we have 
ever gotten them to work is by throwing away Windows and using Linux.

Truman

Kip Babington wrote:

>Is there a common reason why Photoshop 7 should all of a sudden take an 
>extraordinarily long time to load, and sometimes fail to load at all?  It 
>was doing fine this afternoon, but this evening when I tried to open it (to 
>do some B&W prints using Lyson Quad Black on my Canon S9000) I've had it 
>fail to load several times and on another occasion took about 4 minutes to 
>load (felt like a half hour, of course.)
>
>It has always taken longer to load than any other program I use, but I can 
>see that it loads up a ton of stuff at the start - I watch the items flash 
>by on the startup screen.  But this evening there are several places where 
>it seems to get hung up on a plug-in - I remember Bas-Relief sat on the 
>screen for what seemed like forever, and there were several others where 
>the loading process just seemed to stop for a while.  Eventually it 
>finished and my image manipulation seemed to work at normal speed, but 
>clearly something is wrong.  I didn't do anything particular to the 
>computer that I can remember - I just have Eudora and Internet Explorer 
>open most of the time.  I don't leave Photoshop open all the time, just 
>open it when I'm ready to do some image work.
>
>Anything obvious to check to get back to "normal?"
>
>Thanks for any ideas.
>
>Cheers,
>Kip
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Truman Prevatt wrote:

>This is probably more of a computer problem than a PS problem. Myself 
>I've never understood why photoshop takes so long - I suspect it is a 
>dinosaur that needs to be completely rewritten which will probably never 
>happen.
>
>What I think you probably saw was an OS problem. Windows after it has 
>been up for a long period of time - especially if you have run 
>applications that require a lot of memory - will get corrupted and many 
>things will not be done correctly. Windows memory management is not very 
>good. A reboot will solve the problem.
>
>  
>
That's generally a problem only with versions of Windoze built on the 
Win9X Kernel.. Win NT and its successors generally do not have this 
problem...

It's called a "memory leak" and is a real pain in the butt with any 
Win9x or WinME installation.
Keith

 

"Just some guy," and caretaker of the Multiverse's largest EPSON printer 
User Community (highly recommended by Vogon Poets and MegaDodo 
Publications), at:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EPSON_Printers/
 
"For the rest of you out there, the secret is to bang the rocks together 
guys"

 




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>It's called a "memory leak" 

Yeah, gray goo dripping down the side of the box.  Eccch!  Really
messy.
But if you rub it on your prints it increases Dmax and acts as a
preservative.  <ggg>


Regards,
Clayton


Info on black and white digital printing at    
http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm

NT suffers from OS memory leaks and a some point you will either crash 
or have to reboot. In order to cut cost on a large signal processing we 
were task to rehost the S/W from Sun's to an Intel platform. One time 
software cost would very quickly be paid for considering the number of 
units. In order to maintain compatability (and support upgrades) the 
kernel siganl processing code was just recomplied. There were no leaks 
in the applications on the Suns nor the Alpha  both running their 
versions of Unix. About 1000 different people are beating on this code 
daily and it also runs in real time 24/7 operational systems and is very 
stable.

The S/W engineers could never get it work properly under any Windows 
verson and the decision was eventualy made to go to Linux. Works fine. 
The windows memory management still has a ways to go. There was some 
desire to relook at the Windows environment but the decision was made to 
simply load the windows emulator on the Linux box if someone just had to 
run word or excel. That works fine to.

Truman


Editor P.O.V. Image Service wrote:

>Truman Prevatt wrote:
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>>This is probably more of a computer problem than a PS problem. Myself 
>>I've never understood why photoshop takes so long - I suspect it is a 
>>dinosaur that needs to be completely rewritten which will probably never 
>>happen.
>>
>>What I think you probably saw was an OS problem. Windows after it has 
>>been up for a long period of time - especially if you have run 
>>applications that require a lot of memory - will get corrupted and many 
>>things will not be done correctly. Windows memory management is not very 
>>good. A reboot will solve the problem.
>>
>> 
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>>
>That's generally a problem only with versions of Windoze built on the 
>Win9X Kernel.. Win NT and its successors generally do not have this 
>problem...
>
>It's called a "memory leak" and is a real pain in the butt with any 
>Win9x or WinME installation.
>Keith
>
> 
>
>"Just some guy," and caretaker of the Multiverse's largest EPSON printer 
>User Community (highly recommended by Vogon Poets and MegaDodo 
>Publications), at:
>
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EPSON_Printers/
> 
>"For the rest of you out there, the secret is to bang the rocks together 
>guys"
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