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mayer rods and coating mechanics

2003-07-31 by wrightdda2001

wow, this sounds very interesting...do you drag the rod across the 
print by hand? more details please...

dw

Re: [Digital BW] mayer rods and coating mechanics

2003-07-31 by Robert Morrison

This is rather frustrating...there is tons of info in the archives on  
this including some very descriptive posts by Paul Roark.  Please look  
these up.  It seems that some of us explain it over, and over again.   
If someone finds the old posts you could post it again currently for  
the others.  This is why we have the archives.

Robert
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> wow, this sounds very interesting...do you drag the rod across the
> print by hand? more details please...
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Re: [Digital BW] mayer rods and coating mechanics

2003-07-31 by johngeyles

> This is rather frustrating... tons of info in the archives ...

Yes, it's laziness - I'm guilty of it too.

Try the following, for starters:
  
home1.gte.net/res0a2zt/coating.html 

John

Re: [Digital BW] mayer rods and coating mechanics

2003-07-31 by luisvcool

I can understand your frustration but not all groups and forums are the same.  This is 
the first yahoo Group I ever join and I'm still learning "where everything is".  I think a 
statement like you've made could disuade people from asking questions and the 
whole point of groups and forums is to ask, discuss, share and learn.

I know you mean well, by the way.

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Robert Morrison 
<rmorrison@p...> wrote:
> This is rather frustrating...there is tons of info in the archives on  
> this including some very descriptive posts by Paul Roark.  Please look  
> these up.  It seems that some of us explain it over, and over again.   
> If someone finds the old posts you could post it again currently for  
> the others.  This is why we have the archives.
> 
> Robert
> 
> 
> On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 02:09  PM, wrightdda2001 wrote:
> 
> > wow, this sounds very interesting...do you drag the rod across the
> > print by hand? more details please...
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Re: [Digital BW] mayer rods and coating mechanics

2003-07-31 by Eileen Chun

Luis & others,

Robert's remark make sound harsh, but as I have been a member of this
group since early this year, he's not that way off base.  We seem to
visit the same subjects over and over again (perhaps it is just the
nature of the beast).  The coating process is a very interesting
process, and I too would love to learn more about it as well.  We go
over the coating process it seems at least once a month, and spend about
a week if not several days going into it.

Perhaps in the process (the welcome message) could read a faq indicating
that many questions can be answered via the archive.

Just my .02

Eileen



<snip>
luisvcool wrote:
> 
> I can understand your frustration but not all groups and forums are the same.  This is
> the first yahoo Group I ever join and I'm still learning "where everything is".  I think a
> statement like you've made could disuade people from asking questions and the
> whole point of groups and forums is to ask, discuss, share and learn.

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> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Robert Morrison
> <rmorrison@p...> wrote:
> > This is rather frustrating...there is tons of info in the archives on
> > this including some very descriptive posts by Paul Roark.  Please look
> > these up.  I

Re: [Digital BW] mayer rods and coating mechanics

2003-08-01 by Robert Morrison

Funny, every group that I belong to works the same way.  You go to the  
web site and type in subjects to search thread names.  Typing in  
coating will get you hundreds of listings.  What was frustrating to me  
was people acknowledging that they had seen things here on the coatings  
in the past, but wanted us to tell them again.  That's what the  
archives are for.  I'm glad to answer questions once people have made  
an honest attempt to learn from past threads.  No body is getting paid  
here.  Its great to share info...but we need to do this in an efficient  
manner.  Just in the last two days I've answered the same question  
about coating both on list and off list 10 times.  I've answered in 50  
times before that.

Robert
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On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 03:30  PM, luisvcool wrote:

> I can understand your frustration but not all groups and forums are  
> the same.  This is
> the first yahoo Group I ever join and I'm still learning "where  
> everything is".  I think a
> statement like you've made could disuade people from asking questions  
> and the
> whole point of groups and forums is to ask, discuss, share and learn.
>
> I know you mean well, by the way.
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Robert Morrison
> <rmorrison@p...> wrote:
>> This is rather frustrating...there is tons of info in the archives on
>> this including some very descriptive posts by Paul Roark.  Please look
>> these up.  It seems that some of us explain it over, and over again.
>> If someone finds the old posts you could post it again currently for
>> the others.  This is why we have the archives.
>>
>> Robert
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 02:09  PM, wrightdda2001 wrote:
>>
>>> wow, this sounds very interesting...do you drag the rod across the
>>> print by hand? more details please...
>>>
>>> dw
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Re: [Digital BW] mayer rods and coating mechanics

2003-08-01 by borisw8

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Robert Morrison 
<rmorrison@p...> wrote:
> Funny, every group that I belong to works the same way.  You go to 
the  
> web site and type in subjects to search thread names.  Typing in  
> coating will get you hundreds of listings.  

hmmmm...  hundreds of listings...  not that i had anything to do with 
the coating debate, but i think i'd risk ticking off some so-
called "list veterans" and find mercy from someone before i go 
through hundreds of posts...  



What was frustrating to me  
> was people acknowledging that they had seen things here on the 
coatings  
> in the past, but wanted us to tell them again.  That's what the  
> archives are for.  I'm glad to answer questions once people have 
made  
> an honest attempt to learn from past threads.  No body is getting 
paid  
> here.  Its great to share info...but we need to do this in an 
efficient  
> manner.  Just in the last two days I've answered the same question  
> about coating both on list and off list 10 times.  I've answered in 
50  
> times before that.
> 
> Robert
> 
> 
> On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 03:30  PM, luisvcool wrote:
> 
> > I can understand your frustration but not all groups and forums 
are  
> > the same.  This is
> > the first yahoo Group I ever join and I'm still learning "where  
> > everything is".  I think a
> > statement like you've made could disuade people from asking 
questions  
> > and the
> > whole point of groups and forums is to ask, discuss, share and 
learn.
> >
> > I know you mean well, by the way.
> >
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Robert 
Morrison
> > <rmorrison@p...> wrote:
> >> This is rather frustrating...there is tons of info in the 
archives on
> >> this including some very descriptive posts by Paul Roark.  
Please look
> >> these up.  It seems that some of us explain it over, and over 
again.
> >> If someone finds the old posts you could post it again currently 
for
> >> the others.  This is why we have the archives.
> >>
> >> Robert
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 02:09  PM, wrightdda2001 wrote:
> >>
> >>> wow, this sounds very interesting...do you drag the rod across 
the
> >>> print by hand? more details please...
> >>>
> >>> dw
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Re: [Digital BW] mayer rods and coating mechanics

2003-08-01 by Steven Schaefer

What's nice about a group like this is, if you do not what to answer a
question don't, someone  else probably will.

Steve

Robert Morrison wrote:
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> 
> Funny, every group that I belong to works the same way.  You go to
> the
> web site and type in subjects to search thread names.  Typing in
> coating will get you hundreds of listings.  What was frustrating to
> me
> was people acknowledging that they had seen things here on the
> coatings
> in the past, but wanted us to tell them again.  That's what the
> archives are for.  I'm glad to answer questions once people have made
> 
> an honest attempt to learn from past threads.  No body is getting
> paid
> here.  Its great to share info...but we need to do this in an
> efficient
> manner.  Just in the last two days I've answered the same question
> about coating both on list and off list 10 times.  I've answered in
> 50
> times before that.
> 
> Robert
> 
> On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 03:30  PM, luisvcool wrote:
> 
> > I can understand your frustration but not all groups and forums are
> 
> > the same.  This is
> > the first yahoo Group I ever join and I'm still learning "where
> > everything is".  I think a
> > statement like you've made could disuade people from asking
> questions
> > and the
> > whole point of groups and forums is to ask, discuss, share and
> learn.
> >
> > I know you mean well, by the way.
> >
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Robert Morrison
> > <rmorrison@p...> wrote:
> >> This is rather frustrating...there is tons of info in the archives
> on
> >> this including some very descriptive posts by Paul Roark.  Please
> look
> >> these up.  It seems that some of us explain it over, and over
> again.
> >> If someone finds the old posts you could post it again currently
> for
> >> the others.  This is why we have the archives.
> >>
> >> Robert
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 02:09  PM, wrightdda2001 wrote:
> >>
> >>> wow, this sounds very interesting...do you drag the rod across the
> >>> print by hand? more details please...
> >>>
> >>> dw
> >>>
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Re: [Digital BW] mayer rods and coating mechanics

2003-08-01 by Robert Morrison

On Friday, August 1, 2003, at 05:40  AM, Steven Schaefer wrote:

> What's nice about a group like this is, if you do not what to answer a
> question don't, someone  else probably will.
>
> Steve

The key then is not to read the posts then when they answer the 
question with the wrong answer and it drives you nuts, because you know 
it was the wrong answer.  I love this group and I've learned a lot from 
it, but like all non-peer reviewed information sources you have to be 
very careful what you believe.  In the end it takes reading a lot of 
posts and averaging the responses.  Ideally people should start from 
the archives and then ask clarifying questions.  Otherwise you are just 
getting one persons opinion...which is as likely to be objectively 
wrong as it is right.  its not the kind of list that you can just drop 
in and take a quick look if you want to get the real scope.  Its 
probably better to read Harold Johnson's book for that...of course that 
will take some time too.

Robert

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