Digital BW, The Print

> living in the US?
> 
> Julian

>> Since it's a French word, why not call them "Freedom Prints? (sorry,
>> had to do that.)
>> 
> why did you have to do that? as inkjet is an american word maybe we should
> call them human rights abuse and invasion prints? does my comment make you
> realise how innapropriate your comment was to the billions of people not
> living in the US?
> 
> Julian
> 
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> If we print with archival inks on archival paper, then why not call
> them "archival prints". If they're handcolored, then
> they're "handcolored archival prints". I've done custom framing for
> artists who took their oil paintings down to Kinkos, ran off color
> copies, then called them "Giclee prints" in their literature and on
> their print racks. Giclee has become a pretentious, meaningless term.
> Since it's a French word, why not call them "Freedom Prints? (sorry,
> had to do that.)
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steven Schaefer
> <stevenr@m...> wrote:
> > What is the definition of a Giclee print.
> >
> >
> > I am participating in my first art show next Saturday and am trying
> to
> > determine what to say about the prints.
> >
> > If you live in Atlanta come on by and see me. It will be in Grant
> Park
> > Saturday August 9th. My space will be #18.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Steve Schaefer
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On Sunday, August 3, 2003, at 06:09  PM, Ed Mathews wrote:

> Hi,
>      I'm using standard Epson Inks on my 1280.  I bought a can of
> Lumijet Imageseal ($20.00!).  It turned my BO print a weird shade of
> green and darkened everything to the point of being totally
> unacceptable.  But the ugly print was indeed waterproof after that.
>      So as another experiment, today I went to a local craft store and
> bought a water-based PUR varnish, brushed it on, and all the ink ran  
> and
> bled into the white parts of the print.  Although again the ugly print
> was waterproofed after that.
>      Will using a rod to apply this stuff not affect the inks, or is it
> a matter of needing to use a carbon based ink to begin with?  What am I
> missing here?
>
> Thanks,
> Ed
> http://lightandsilver.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Morrison [mailto:rmorrison@...] 
> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 12:04 PM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Coating dye inks on matt paper
> 
> 
> Get rid of the dyes, they aren't water fast and will only lead to  
> agrivation with the coatings.  You could try spraying with Krylon  
> UV-resistant spray first to seal them, then use a PUR to seal from  
> water...but why go to all that trouble with dyes...they are only  
> temporary anyway.  A rod won't make any difference, your problem is  
> that the dyes aren't water-fast to begin with. You would be 
> much better  
> off using a 2200 with the Ultrachromes...if you are trying to 
> get water  
> fastness.
> 
> Robert
> 
> 
> On Sunday, August 3, 2003, at 06:09  PM, Ed Mathews wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >      I'm using standard Epson Inks on my 1280.  I bought a can of
> > Lumijet Imageseal ($20.00!).  It turned my BO print a weird shade of
> > green and darkened everything to the point of being totally
> > unacceptable.  But the ugly print was indeed waterproof after that.
> >      So as another experiment, today I went to a local 
> craft store and
> > bought a water-based PUR varnish, brushed it on, and all 
> the ink ran  
> > and
> > bled into the white parts of the print.  Although again the 
> ugly print
> > was waterproofed after that.
> >      Will using a rod to apply this stuff not affect the 
> inks, or is it
> > a matter of needing to use a carbon based ink to begin 
> with?  What am I
> > missing here?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ed
> > http://lightandsilver.com

On Monday, August 4, 2003, at 09:22  AM, Ed Mathews wrote:

> Thanks for the info.  Unfortunately, I just got a decent 1280 (third  
> one
> under warranty - this one appears to work OK), and another new printer
> is not in my plans at this time.  So should I use the MIS aftermarket
> carbon inks?  Will that accept the coatings without ruining the print?
>
> Thanks,
> Ed Mathews X3025.
> Douron, Inc. 410-363-2600.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Robert Morrison [mailto:rmorrison@...]
>> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 12:04 PM
>> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Coating dye inks on matt paper
>>
>>
>> Get rid of the dyes, they aren't water fast and will only lead to
>> agrivation with the coatings.  You could try spraying with Krylon
>> UV-resistant spray first to seal them, then use a PUR to seal from
>> water...but why go to all that trouble with dyes...they are only
>> temporary anyway.  A rod won't make any difference, your problem is
>> that the dyes aren't water-fast to begin with. You would be
>> much better
>> off using a 2200 with the Ultrachromes...if you are trying to
>> get water
>> fastness.
>>
>> Robert
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, August 3, 2003, at 06:09  PM, Ed Mathews wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>      I'm using standard Epson Inks on my 1280.  I bought a can of
>>> Lumijet Imageseal ($20.00!).  It turned my BO print a weird shade of
>>> green and darkened everything to the point of being totally
>>> unacceptable.  But the ugly print was indeed waterproof after that.
>>>      So as another experiment, today I went to a local
>> craft store and
>>> bought a water-based PUR varnish, brushed it on, and all
>> the ink ran
>>> and
>>> bled into the white parts of the print.  Although again the
>> ugly print
>>> was waterproofed after that.
>>>      Will using a rod to apply this stuff not affect the
>> inks, or is it
>>> a matter of needing to use a carbon based ink to begin
>> with?  What am I
>>> missing here?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ed
>>> http://lightandsilver.com
>
>
>
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