Digital BW, The Print

Paul,                                                                                                    
 
For months I was looking forward to getting to Solvang to see your show and 
finally visited the museum yesterday.   It was worth the 15 hour roundtrip 
drive!  The show was inspiring!  Anyone who feels that digital photography 
cannot compete with silver printing should view your prints.  From a purely 
technical standpoint I could not perceive any superiority of one over the other. 
There will always  be those who will hold that nothing can compare with 
traditional silver printing and that's o.k.  The point for me is that standing 
before your prints is all the argument I will ever need to conclusively 
demonstrate carbon pigment printing is here and need make no apology to 
any other process.  It stands firmly on its own feet.  Your art says it all without 
words. Not only is your work technically beautiful, but even more importantly,  
it is creatively beautiful!  My only real disappointment was that I was not able 
to meet you personally.

 One other thought: I wish to express my deep appreciation for your 
extraordinary generosity in responding to the many inquiries made by 
members of the  B@W forum.

I'm sure many of the members, like me,  never fail to read everything  you 
post.  In addition, your generosity in giving of your valuable time in answering  
posts on the forum and your generosity in providing curves without profiting 
from them proves your unselfish desire to help all photographers!  I have 
always felt that artists should do everything within their power to help one 
another and should do it for free.  You are a fine example for all of us.  Many 
thanks,  Paul!
Joe D.

Not seen the ehibition, but hear, hear to your comments on Paul's 
devotions.  Without doubt I have learnt more from this man than any 
other else when dealing with digital B&W printing.

Thank you

Gareth

Gareth--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "davajonj" 
<davajon@s...> wrote:
> 
Paul,                                                                 
                                   
>  
> For months I was looking forward to getting to Solvang to see your 
show and 
> finally visited the museum yesterday.   It was worth the 15 hour 
roundtrip 
> drive!  The show was inspiring!  Anyone who feels that digital 
photography 
> cannot compete with silver printing should view your prints.  From 
a purely 
> technical standpoint I could not perceive any superiority of one 
over the other. 
> There will always  be those who will hold that nothing can compare 
with 
> traditional silver printing and that's o.k.  The point for me is 
that standing 
> before your prints is all the argument I will ever need to 
conclusively 
> demonstrate carbon pigment printing is here and need make no 
apology to 
> any other process.  It stands firmly on its own feet.  Your art 
says it all without 
> words. Not only is your work technically beautiful, but even more 
importantly,  
> it is creatively beautiful!  My only real disappointment was that I 
was not able 
> to meet you personally.
> 
>  One other thought: I wish to express my deep appreciation for your 
> extraordinary generosity in responding to the many inquiries made 
by 
> members of the  B@W forum.
> 
> I'm sure many of the members, like me,  never fail to read 
everything  you 
> post.  In addition, your generosity in giving of your valuable time 
in answering  
> posts on the forum and your generosity in providing curves without 
profiting 
> from them proves your unselfish desire to help all photographers!  
I have 
> always felt that artists should do everything within their power to 
help one 
> another and should do it for free.  You are a fine example for all 
of us.  Many 
> thanks,  Paul!
> Joe D.

Joe,

Thanks for the compliment.  You should have felt free to call me when you
were here.  The folks at the Elverhoj (or Marilyn Cronk, the director) will
give you the # and allow you to use the phone (I think).

This weekend is it for the show.  It's been fun.

Paul
http://www.PaulRoark.com
_________________________________________

-----Original Message-----
From: davajonj [mailto:davajon@...]
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 11:29 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Paul Roark's exhibit


Paul,

For months I was looking forward to getting to Solvang to see your show and
finally visited the museum yesterday.   It was worth the 15 hour roundtrip
drive!  The show was inspiring!  Anyone who feels that digital photography
cannot compete with silver printing should view your prints.  From a purely
technical standpoint I could not perceive any superiority of one over the
other.
There will always  be those who will hold that nothing can compare with
traditional silver printing and that's o.k.  The point for me is that
standing
before your prints is all the argument I will ever need to conclusively
demonstrate carbon pigment printing is here and need make no apology to
any other process.  It stands firmly on its own feet.  Your art says it all
without
words. Not only is your work technically beautiful, but even more
importantly,
it is creatively beautiful!  My only real disappointment was that I was not
able
to meet you personally.

 One other thought: I wish to express my deep appreciation for your
extraordinary generosity in responding to the many inquiries made by
members of the  B@W forum.

I'm sure many of the members, like me,  never fail to read everything  you
post.  In addition, your generosity in giving of your valuable time in
answering
posts on the forum and your generosity in providing curves without profiting
from them proves your unselfish desire to help all photographers!  I have
always felt that artists should do everything within their power to help one
another and should do it for free.  You are a fine example for all of us.
Many
thanks,  Paul!
Joe D.




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Hi Joe,
 I heartily agree with yur comments about Paul and second yur thots 
about the man. I have pestered Paul on many occasions and he has 
always been gracious and giving. Paul is an inspiration 4 all of us 
and i am only 2 happy to express my appreciation 4 all he has done.




                             Tim











--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "davajonj" 
<davajon@s...> wrote:
> 
Paul,                                                                 
                                   
>  
> For months I was looking forward to getting to Solvang to see your 
show and 
> finally visited the museum yesterday.   It was worth the 15 hour 
roundtrip 
> drive!  The show was inspiring!  Anyone who feels that digital 
photography 
> cannot compete with silver printing should view your prints.  From 
a purely 
> technical standpoint I could not perceive any superiority of one 
over the other. 
> There will always  be those who will hold that nothing can compare 
with 
> traditional silver printing and that's o.k.  The point for me is 
that standing 
> before your prints is all the argument I will ever need to 
conclusively 
> demonstrate carbon pigment printing is here and need make no 
apology to 
> any other process.  It stands firmly on its own feet.  Your art 
says it all without 
> words. Not only is your work technically beautiful, but even more 
importantly,  
> it is creatively beautiful!  My only real disappointment was that I 
was not able 
> to meet you personally.
> 
>  One other thought: I wish to express my deep appreciation for your 
> extraordinary generosity in responding to the many inquiries made 
by 
> members of the  B@W forum.
> 
> I'm sure many of the members, like me,  never fail to read 
everything  you 
> post.  In addition, your generosity in giving of your valuable time 
in answering  
> posts on the forum and your generosity in providing curves without 
profiting 
> from them proves your unselfish desire to help all photographers!  
I have 
> always felt that artists should do everything within their power to 
help one 
> another and should do it for free.  You are a fine example for all 
of us.  Many 
> thanks,  Paul!
> Joe D.

Well Said on all points.  Add my thanks and appreciation for all Paul
has done for us.


Regards,
Clayton


Info on black and white digital printing at    
http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm

I am totally with you, the frustrations I have had with my digital 
workflow have been far outweighed by the results and the support 
given, plus as you, compared to many of the Piezo systems, this is 
developed and used for free.

Paul, I don't know if you ever saw my post a few weeks ago regarding 
my distinction with the Royal Photographic Society.  In case not, I 
will post again a small section that I wanted you to read :


>>> Well, in Cambridge this afternoon I was successful in achieving a 
Licentiate Distinction from the Royal Photographic Society!
Thrilled to bits as I have spent several months putting everything 
together. I chose a panel of 10 B&W images, mostly taken with my 
Fuji S2 and digitally printed onto PhotoRag using VM Ultratone inks 
and Gen4 black. One of the assessment judges passed particular 
comment on the print quality, saying how hard B&W can be to get 
right. I think Mr. Roark also deserves this pat on the back as the 
system makes the print! <<<




--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "davajonj" 
<davajon@s...> wrote:
> 
Paul,                                                                 
                                   
>  
> For months I was looking forward to getting to Solvang to see your 
show and 
> finally visited the museum yesterday.   It was worth the 15 hour 
roundtrip 
> drive!  The show was inspiring!  Anyone who feels that digital 
photography 
> cannot compete with silver printing should view your prints.  From 
a purely 
> technical standpoint I could not perceive any superiority of one 
over the other. 
> There will always  be those who will hold that nothing can compare 
with 
> traditional silver printing and that's o.k.  The point for me is 
that standing 
> before your prints is all the argument I will ever need to 
conclusively 
> demonstrate carbon pigment printing is here and need make no 
apology to 
> any other process.  It stands firmly on its own feet.  Your art 
says it all without 
> words. Not only is your work technically beautiful, but even more 
importantly,  
> it is creatively beautiful!  My only real disappointment was that I 
was not able 
> to meet you personally.
> 
>  One other thought: I wish to express my deep appreciation for your 
> extraordinary generosity in responding to the many inquiries made 
by 
> members of the  B@W forum.
> 
> I'm sure many of the members, like me,  never fail to read 
everything  you 
> post.  In addition, your generosity in giving of your valuable time 
in answering  
> posts on the forum and your generosity in providing curves without 
profiting 
> from them proves your unselfish desire to help all photographers!  
I have 
> always felt that artists should do everything within their power to 
help one 
> another and should do it for free.  You are a fine example for all 
of us.  Many 
> thanks,  Paul!
> Joe D.

Steve,

Congratulations on the Licentiate Distinction.  I had missed the original
posting.  It's great to see that the digital B&W output is making the grade,
but there is no doubt in my mind that it was the artistic merit of the
images, not the ink, that garnered the award.

Paul
http://www.PaulRoark.com
__________________________

-----Original Message-----
From: scrber [mailto:stephen.bate@...]
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 3:10 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Paul Roark's exhibit

[snip]

Paul, I don't know if you ever saw my post a few weeks ago regarding
my distinction with the Royal Photographic Society.  In case not, I
will post again a small section that I wanted you to read :


>>> Well, in Cambridge this afternoon I was successful in achieving a
Licentiate Distinction from the Royal Photographic Society!
Thrilled to bits as I have spent several months putting everything
together. I chose a panel of 10 B&W images, mostly taken with my
Fuji S2 and digitally printed onto PhotoRag using VM Ultratone inks
and Gen4 black. One of the assessment judges passed particular
comment on the print quality, saying how hard B&W can be to get
right. I think Mr. Roark also deserves this pat on the back as the
system makes the print! <<<
...

Paul's right, of course.  In the end there are very few processes that, in the right hands, can't turn out artistically excellent results.  At the end of the day, all art must be judged on it's artistic impact, not on it's science.  Photographers are, by their nature, are prone to forget this.  I know first hand, how easy it is to sometimes lose sight of that.

 

Tom Baker

Paul Roark <paul.roark@...> wrote:
Steve,

Congratulations on the Licentiate Distinction.  I had missed the original
posting.  It's great to see that the digital B&W output is making the grade,
but there is no doubt in my mind that it was the artistic merit of the
images, not the ink, that garnered the award.

Paul
http://www.PaulRoark.com
__________________________

-----Original Message-----
From: scrber [mailto:stephen.bate@...]
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 3:10 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Paul Roark's exhibit

[snip]

Paul, I don't know if you ever saw my post a few weeks ago regarding
my distinction with the Royal Photographic Society.  In case not, I
will post again a small section that I wanted you to read :


>>> Well, in Cambridge this afternoon I was successful in achieving a
Licentiate Distinction from the Royal Photographic Society!
Thrilled to bits as I have spent several months putting everything
together. I chose a panel of 10 B&W images, mostly taken with my
Fuji S2 and digitally printed onto PhotoRag using VM Ultratone inks
and Gen4 black. One of the assessment judges passed particular
comment on the print quality, saying how hard B&W can be to get
right. I think Mr. Roark also deserves this pat on the back as the
system makes the print! <<<
...




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I wholeheartedly agree! Paul's service to the B&W digital printing community
has been and is exemplary!! About 2 years ago, I finally gave up on Piezo
and went with MIS inks and Paul's curves, and have never looked back. Right
now I'm running UT in my Epson 1160 with Paul's latest curves and the result
is stunning. I only wish I was close enough to Solvang to see his show,
but... I have one of Paul's Grand Tetons prints hanging on the wall behind
me and it's certainly one of my favorites.

Thank you, again, Paul. And, thank you to the many other members of this
forum who provide time and assistance.

Regards,
Alan Huntley

>  One other thought: I wish to express my deep appreciation for your
> extraordinary generosity in responding to the many inquiries made by
> members of the  B@W forum.
>
> I'm sure many of the members, like me,  never fail to read everything  you
> post.  In addition, your generosity in giving of your valuable time in
answering
> posts on the forum and your generosity in providing curves without
profiting
> from them proves your unselfish desire to help all photographers!  I have
> always felt that artists should do everything within their power to help
one
> another and should do it for free.  You are a fine example for all of us.
Many
> thanks,  Paul!
> Joe D.