Digital BW, The Print

Ron,
 
just to make sure: are you using the same ICC profile for the two papers or you print on each paper with its own profile? I ask this because I print with curves (the excellent Randall workflow), and therefore a different paper would mean tweaking the curves (unless it takes the same profile).
BTW, in a post dated Oct, 12 ("New Epson Velvet Papers"), Robert Morrison talked about a 40 years longevity rating published by Epson for this paper. If this is true, then we probably need to look elsewhere for a true archival paper.
 
Alessandro

-----Original Message-----
From: harrisimages [mailto:harris@...]
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 15:50
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: EAM turns yellow!


Alessandro,

Yes, prints on EEM and EVFA are nearly identical.  I am using the 
standard Ultrachrome inks on the Epson 2200.  For printing I am 
using ImagePrint 5.5 available from www.colorbytesoftware.com. So, I 
do all my general printing and proofing on EEM and make my fine art 
prints on EVFA.

When printing with ImagePrint, I am using their furnished ICC paper 
profiles. 

I do find that prints made on EVFA paper using the above method seem 
to have more "depth" than when printed on EAM/EEM.

Ron  



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Alessandro,

Yes, I use a different profile for each paper...each paper with it's 
own profile.  I can say that using EVFA paper I can see slight 
differences between using the EEM and EVFA profiles....however, 
ImagePrint profiles will show variances even with the same paper and 
1440 dpi and 2880 profiles. I haven't tried using the EVFA profile 
with EEM.

If you are using the Randall Workflow, I assume you are printing 
with PiezoTone inks.  If so, you will get a higher Dmax using 
PhotoRag than you will with EVFA or EEM. And with PiezoTone inks 
Dmax will increase over a few days time on PhotoRag.

You asked about print life....this number has bounced around a bit.  
The latest from Wilhelm is:
http://www.wilhelm-research.com/ep9600%20print%20permanence.html
here he rates EVFA with B&W printing using full-color Ultrachrome 
inks at 115 years, and greater than 140 years if sprayed with 
PremierArt spray.

Ron 
  
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Alessandro 
Pardi" <alessandro.pardi@i...> wrote:
> Ron,
>  
> just to make sure: are you using the same ICC profile for the two 
papers or you print on each paper with its own profile? I ask this 
because I print with curves (the excellent Randall workflow), and 
therefore a different paper would mean tweaking the curves (unless 
it takes the same profile).
> BTW, in a post dated Oct, 12 ("New Epson Velvet Papers"), Robert 
Morrison talked about a 40 years longevity rating published by Epson 
for this paper. If this is true, then we probably need to look 
elsewhere for a true archival paper.
>  
> Alessandro
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: harrisimages [mailto:harris@s...]
> Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 15:50
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: EAM turns yellow!
> 
> 
> Alessandro,
> 
> Yes, prints on EEM and EVFA are nearly identical.  I am using the 
> standard Ultrachrome inks on the Epson 2200.  For printing I am 
> using ImagePrint 5.5 available from www.colorbytesoftware.com. So, 
I 
> do all my general printing and proofing on EEM and make my fine 
art 
> prints on EVFA.
> 
> When printing with ImagePrint, I am using their furnished ICC 
paper 
> profiles. 
> 
> I do find that prints made on EVFA paper using the above method 
seem 

> to have more "depth" than when printed on EAM/EEM.
> 
> Ron  
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]