Digital BW, The Print

I have been trying to print black and white images on an Epson 2200 
using Enhanced matte paper.  The images appear to have a green tint 
to them.  Any suggestions on how to eliminate this phenomenon?

Thanks

Bob
icepucks@...

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Hey folks (specifically Carl and Daniel).  I'm about to order a set of 
the ultratone carts from MIS.  The lovely and helpful Diane asked me 
which black I wanted to use, and initially I thought eboni, but figured 
I'd check first.

I'm planning on taking 2 software approaches.  1) Use carl's 2200 curves 
in QTR via linux, and 2) use the Roark curves for the 1280/1290 which 
have been modified for the 2100/2200 ( I thought this was Daniels 
territory?).

Anyhoo, which black did you guys test/develop these methods with?

TIA!
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I used Eboni in the black position and MIS LK in the light black
position. 

I also have some curves with much less severe RGB adjusments than Paul's
curves, but they will give you some slight dotting in the highlights.
(Less than Imageprint and the OEM carts, but still visible)

--
Daniel Staver
http://daniel.staver.no 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Justin Florentine [mailto:justin@...] 
> Sent: 3. september 2003 19:06
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] ultratone carts in 2200
> 
> 
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> Hey folks (specifically Carl and Daniel).  I'm about to order 
> a set of 
> the ultratone carts from MIS.  The lovely and helpful Diane asked me 
> which black I wanted to use, and initially I thought eboni, 
> but figured 
> I'd check first.
> 
> I'm planning on taking 2 software approaches.  1) Use carl's 
> 2200 curves 
> in QTR via linux, and 2) use the Roark curves for the 1280/1290 which 
> have been modified for the 2100/2200 ( I thought this was Daniels 
> territory?).
> 
> Anyhoo, which black did you guys test/develop these methods with?
> 
> TIA!
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Try Roy Harrington's Quadtone RIP and see if that does it for you, else you are into 
using different ink sets etc Read thru the archives on this forum for all the possible 
variations.....Roy's solution works well for me (I use an Epson 2100) and saves me 
having to dedicate a printer to B&W

http://harrington.com/QuadToneRIP.html

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Bob" <icepucks@a...> 
wrote:

> I have been trying to print black and white images on an Epson 2200 
> using Enhanced matte paper.  The images appear to have a green tint 
> to them.  Any suggestions on how to eliminate this phenomenon?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Bob
> icepucks@a...

get the gray balancing software, pick a lighting to balance for, 
spend lots of time and you can get it to look perfect in that one 
lighting situation... but it will still look green or red under other 
lighting:)

mark

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Bob" 
<icepucks@a...> wrote:

> I have been trying to print black and white images on an Epson 2200 
> using Enhanced matte paper.  The images appear to have a green tint 
> to them.  Any suggestions on how to eliminate this phenomenon?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Bob
> icepucks@a...

Does this RIP come in a format for the PC? All I see at the site is 
the MAc's version.


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Kale" 
<stevekale@b...> wrote:
> Try Roy Harrington's Quadtone RIP and see if that does it for you, 
else you are into 
> using different ink sets etc Read thru the archives on this forum 
for all the possible 
> variations.....Roy's solution works well for me (I use an Epson 
2100) and saves me 
> having to dedicate a printer to B&W
> 
> http://harrington.com/QuadToneRIP.html
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Bob" 
<icepucks@a...> 
> wrote:
> > I have been trying to print black and white images on an Epson 
2200 
> > using Enhanced matte paper.  The images appear to have a green 
tint 

> > to them.  Any suggestions on how to eliminate this phenomenon?
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > Bob
> > icepucks@a...

Guess who finally got their 2200 carts?

Daniel, I'd like to try your adapted Roark curves for the 2200.  Can
you post those PS curves somewhere accessible?  You can email them
directly to me if you don't have a server to post them on.



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel Staver"
<daniel@p...> wrote:

> I used Eboni in the black position and MIS LK in the light black
> position. 
> 
> I also have some curves with much less severe RGB adjusments than Paul's
> curves, but they will give you some slight dotting in the highlights.
> (Less than Imageprint and the OEM carts, but still visible)
> 
> --
> Daniel Staver
> http://daniel.staver.no 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Justin Florentine [mailto:justin@b...] 
> > Sent: 3. september 2003 19:06
> > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Digital BW] ultratone carts in 2200
> > 
> > 
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> > 
> > Hey folks (specifically Carl and Daniel).  I'm about to order 
> > a set of 
> > the ultratone carts from MIS.  The lovely and helpful Diane asked me 
> > which black I wanted to use, and initially I thought eboni, 
> > but figured 
> > I'd check first.
> > 
> > I'm planning on taking 2 software approaches.  1) Use carl's 
> > 2200 curves 
> > in QTR via linux, and 2) use the Roark curves for the 1280/1290 which 
> > have been modified for the 2100/2200 ( I thought this was Daniels 
> > territory?).
> > 
> > Anyhoo, which black did you guys test/develop these methods with?
> > 
> > TIA!
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You can download them here:
http://download.petraflux.com/ultratone2100curves.zip (804 bytes)

The Neutral warm and Warm curves will print a little too bright because
I managed to linearize them to a miscalibrated stepwedge. I've been
meaning to fix that for some time, but for now the best solution is to
offset the brightness with a slightly darker curve layer below the
separation curve.

The Medium cool curve is a very experimental curve I did a few days ago,
it probably still needs some work...

Let me know how it works out for you.

--
Daniel Staver
http://daniel.staver.no 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: justinflorentine [mailto:justin@...] 
> Sent: 9. september 2003 01:14
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] ultratone carts in 2200
> 
> 
> Guess who finally got their 2200 carts?
> 
> Daniel, I'd like to try your adapted Roark curves for the 
> 2200.  Can you post those PS curves somewhere accessible?  
> You can email them directly to me if you don't have a server 
> to post them on.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel 
> Staver" <daniel@p...> wrote:
> > I used Eboni in the black position and MIS LK in the light black 
> > position.
> > 
> > I also have some curves with much less severe RGB adjusments than 
> > Paul's curves, but they will give you some slight dotting in the 
> > highlights. (Less than Imageprint and the OEM carts, but still 
> > visible)
> > 
> > --
> > Daniel Staver
> > http://daniel.staver.no
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Justin Florentine [mailto:justin@b...]
> > > Sent: 3. september 2003 19:06
> > > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [Digital BW] ultratone carts in 2200
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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> > > 
> > > Hey folks (specifically Carl and Daniel).  I'm about to order
> > > a set of 
> > > the ultratone carts from MIS.  The lovely and helpful 
> Diane asked me 
> > > which black I wanted to use, and initially I thought eboni, 
> > > but figured 
> > > I'd check first.
> > > 
> > > I'm planning on taking 2 software approaches.  1) Use carl's
> > > 2200 curves 
> > > in QTR via linux, and 2) use the Roark curves for the 
> 1280/1290 which 
> > > have been modified for the 2100/2200 ( I thought this was Daniels 
> > > territory?).
> > > 
> > > Anyhoo, which black did you guys test/develop these methods with?
> > > 
> > > TIA!
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