Digital BW, The Print

I get the feeling that many on this list are using matte papers. I think
these are beautiful in their own way, but still prefer the look & feel of a
traditional glossy print for most of my work.

I've seen various papers discussed for glossy, but not a comparison of the
underlying ink/driver (and/or RIP) system. Are the various inksets pretty
much equal in this regard? Or is there a particular setup that produces
excellent glossy prints with minimal to no bronzing?

TIA,
Doug

Doug,

Nice to hear from a fellow glossy printer! I'm very satisfied with 
the prints I'm getting using the following setup:

- Ultra-tone inks with photo black
- Epson 1280: printing at 2880, no color adjustment, premium glossy 
paper setting, Epson driver
- Roark UT curves (really like the cool curve: ut80-c+3)
- Pictorico photo gallery glossy paper. No other paper I've tried has 
been bronze-free.
- I've also removed the rollers that used to cause "pizza
wheel" 
marks on my prints (a real issue on glossy papers).

There's still room for improvement, so I'm working on a transfer 
curve to improve the separation in the 90% - 100% range.

I'm hoping some other glossy printers will come forward with their 
workflows because I'd be interested in learning from them – and
to 
see if there's any interest in a glossy-only print exchange
sometime.

Cheers,

Mark


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Doug I." 
<puzzolente@e...> wrote:
> I get the feeling that many on this list are using matte papers. I 
think
> these are beautiful in their own way, but still prefer the look & 
feel of a
> traditional glossy print for most of my work.
> 
> I've seen various papers discussed for glossy, but not a comparison 
of the
> underlying ink/driver (and/or RIP) system. Are the various inksets 
pretty
> much equal in this regard? Or is there a particular setup that 
produces

> excellent glossy prints with minimal to no bronzing?
> 
> TIA,
> Doug

Hi,

I have just finished creating custom curves for glossy paper with the 
Ultratone inks. Here is my setup (very similar to yours):

- Ultratones with photo black
- Epson 1280 printing at 2880, no color adjustment, photo quality 
glossy film media selection, Epson driver
- My own curves just completed. I found that the Roark curves didn't 
work as well as I would have liked on glossy paper. 
- Epson Professional Glossy Paper (only available in 13x19 or rolls, 
but it has a surface I prefer the most). This paper has mild 
bronzing, but I use an overspray and that essentially eliminates the 
problem.
- I also found I needed to remove the rollers.

I just sent some sample prints to MIS for evaluation.
Please contact me off list if you would like me to send you the 
curves I made. It would be good to have multiple people try them out. 

Regards,
Dirk


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "mccarvill" 
<mark_mccarvill@h...> wrote:
> Doug,
> 
> Nice to hear from a fellow glossy printer! I'm very satisfied with 
> the prints I'm getting using the following setup:
> 
> - Ultra-tone inks with photo black
> - Epson 1280: printing at 2880, no color adjustment, premium glossy 
> paper setting, Epson driver
> - Roark UT curves (really like the cool curve: ut80-c+3)
> - Pictorico photo gallery glossy paper. No other paper I've tried 
has 
> been bronze-free.
> - I've also removed the rollers that used to cause "pizza
> wheel" 
> marks on my prints (a real issue on glossy papers).
> 
> There's still room for improvement, so I'm working on a transfer 
> curve to improve the separation in the 90% - 100% range.
> 
> I'm hoping some other glossy printers will come forward with their 
> workflows because I'd be interested in learning from them – and
> to 
> see if there's any interest in a glossy-only print exchange
> sometime.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Doug I." 
> <puzzolente@e...> wrote:
> > I get the feeling that many on this list are using matte papers. 
I 
> think
> > these are beautiful in their own way, but still prefer the look & 
> feel of a
> > traditional glossy print for most of my work.
> > 
> > I've seen various papers discussed for glossy, but not a 
comparison 
> of the
> > underlying ink/driver (and/or RIP) system. Are the various 
inksets 

> pretty
> > much equal in this regard? Or is there a particular setup that 
> produces
> > excellent glossy prints with minimal to no bronzing?
> > 
> > TIA,
> > Doug