Digital BW, The Print

There is a very interesting article" Dealing with Dealers" in the current 
issue of Lenswork written by John Wimberley! A photographer who has made his 
living for more than 20 years from gallery print sales. He relates 
experiences with 40 dealers/galleries throughout his career, most of it 
negative. He relates an example:
Cost of making the print 200.00 so at this cost he needs the gallery to price 
the work at 1000.00 so his split will be 500.00 So he has his 200.00 cost 
from that 500 and is expected to supply a replacement print for the one sold. 
He may also be asked to help out paying for promotional material and wine 
cheese and shrimp dip for the opening. Doesn't leave much left does it from a 
1000.00 sale.  The article is several pages and touches on non paying and 
extremely slow paying dealers (many of them behave this way)! Find a dealer 
you trust or, sell direct is his message. He did live in his darkroom for 14 
years and slept on the floor, so the article states!  Slow and non payment, 
even refusing to return inventory is not uncommon. I found the article very 
interesting and I will be more hesitant to solicit out of state galleries 
that I don't know much about.
Steve Meyers
http://www.xray-art.com


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Thanks Steve, I'll order that copy. Anyone know the issue number that had
the piece on editioning?

Julian
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From: <sdmey4@...>
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Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2001 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Dealing with Dealers!- was gallery(RANT)


> There is a very interesting article" Dealing with Dealers" in the current
> issue of Lenswork written by John Wimberley! A photographer who has made
his
> living for more than 20 years from gallery print sales. He relates
> experiences with 40 dealers/galleries throughout his career, most of it
> negative. He relates an example:
> Cost of making the print 200.00 so at this cost he needs the gallery to
price
> the work at 1000.00 so his split will be 500.00 So he has his 200.00 cost
> from that 500 and is expected to supply a replacement print for the one
sold.
> He may also be asked to help out paying for promotional material and wine
> cheese and shrimp dip for the opening. Doesn't leave much left does it
from a
> 1000.00 sale.  The article is several pages and touches on non paying and
> extremely slow paying dealers (many of them behave this way)! Find a
dealer
> you trust or, sell direct is his message. He did live in his darkroom for
14
> years and slept on the floor, so the article states!  Slow and non
payment,
> even refusing to return inventory is not uncommon. I found the article
very
> interesting and I will be more hesitant to solicit out of state galleries
> that I don't know much about.
> Steve Meyers
> http://www.xray-art.com
>
>
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The piece on editioning was this year #36 July/August 2001 titled "What size is the Edition"  by Brooks Jensen

- J :)

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Julian Thomas 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2001 3:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Dealing with Dealers!- was gallery(RANT)


  Thanks Steve, I'll order that copy. Anyone know the issue number that had
  the piece on editioning?

  Julian
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: <sdmey4@...>
  To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
  Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2001 8:54 PM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Dealing with Dealers!- was gallery(RANT)


  > There is a very interesting article" Dealing with Dealers" in the current
  > issue of Lenswork written by John Wimberley! A photographer who has made
  his
  > living for more than 20 years from gallery print sales. He relates
  > experiences with 40 dealers/galleries throughout his career, most of it
  > negative. He relates an example:
  > Cost of making the print 200.00 so at this cost he needs the gallery to
  price
  > the work at 1000.00 so his split will be 500.00 So he has his 200.00 cost
  > from that 500 and is expected to supply a replacement print for the one
  sold.
  > He may also be asked to help out paying for promotional material and wine
  > cheese and shrimp dip for the opening. Doesn't leave much left does it
  from a
  > 1000.00 sale.  The article is several pages and touches on non paying and
  > extremely slow paying dealers (many of them behave this way)! Find a
  dealer
  > you trust or, sell direct is his message. He did live in his darkroom for
  14
  > years and slept on the floor, so the article states!  Slow and non
  payment,
  > even refusing to return inventory is not uncommon. I found the article
  very
  > interesting and I will be more hesitant to solicit out of state galleries
  > that I don't know much about.
  > Steve Meyers
  > http://www.xray-art.com
  >
  >
  > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
  >
  >
  >
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Thanks jennifer I'll order it!

J
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jennifer Drucker" <jdrucker@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2001 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Dealing with Dealers!- was gallery(RANT)


> The piece on editioning was this year #36 July/August 2001 titled "What
size is the Edition"  by Brooks Jensen
>
> - J :)
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Julian Thomas
>   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2001 3:05 PM
>   Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Dealing with Dealers!- was gallery(RANT)
>
>
>   Thanks Steve, I'll order that copy. Anyone know the issue number that
had
>   the piece on editioning?
>
>   Julian
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: <sdmey4@...>
>   To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
>   Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2001 8:54 PM
>   Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Dealing with Dealers!- was gallery(RANT)
>
>
>   > There is a very interesting article" Dealing with Dealers" in the
current
>   > issue of Lenswork written by John Wimberley! A photographer who has
made
>   his
>   > living for more than 20 years from gallery print sales. He relates
>   > experiences with 40 dealers/galleries throughout his career, most of
it
>   > negative. He relates an example:
>   > Cost of making the print 200.00 so at this cost he needs the gallery
to
>   price
>   > the work at 1000.00 so his split will be 500.00 So he has his 200.00
cost
>   > from that 500 and is expected to supply a replacement print for the
one
>   sold.
>   > He may also be asked to help out paying for promotional material and
wine
>   > cheese and shrimp dip for the opening. Doesn't leave much left does it
>   from a
>   > 1000.00 sale.  The article is several pages and touches on non paying
and
>   > extremely slow paying dealers (many of them behave this way)! Find a
>   dealer
>   > you trust or, sell direct is his message. He did live in his darkroom
for
>   14
>   > years and slept on the floor, so the article states!  Slow and non
>   payment,
>   > even refusing to return inventory is not uncommon. I found the article
>   very
>   > interesting and I will be more hesitant to solicit out of state
galleries
>   > that I don't know much about.
>   > Steve Meyers
>   > http://www.xray-art.com
>   >
>   >
>   > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>   >
>   >
>   >
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Steve,

I just visited your site for the first time. I loved the work on the first
page and, lo and behold, I found a print I own on the second. It was a gift
and I didn't know who the artist was...until now. I would love to have more
details about the xray process. I was originally told that you used
mammography film and MRI ...
My print is on the wall above me now.

Keep up the good work!
trish 

> From: sdmey4@...
> Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 14:54:23 EDT
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Dealing with Dealers!- was gallery(RANT)
> 
> There is a very interesting article" Dealing with Dealers" in the current
> issue of Lenswork written by John Wimberley! A photographer who has made his
> living for more than 20 years from gallery print sales. He relates
> experiences with 40 dealers/galleries throughout his career, most of it
> negative. He relates an example:
> Cost of making the print 200.00 so at this cost he needs the gallery to price
> the work at 1000.00 so his split will be 500.00 So he has his 200.00 cost
> from that 500 and is expected to supply a replacement print for the one sold.
> He may also be asked to help out paying for promotional material and wine
> cheese and shrimp dip for the opening. Doesn't leave much left does it from a
> 1000.00 sale.  The article is several pages and touches on non paying and
> extremely slow paying dealers (many of them behave this way)! Find a dealer
> you trust or, sell direct is his message. He did live in his darkroom for 14
> years and slept on the floor, so the article states!  Slow and non payment,
> even refusing to return inventory is not uncommon. I found the article very
> interesting and I will be more hesitant to solicit out of state galleries
> that I don't know much about.
> Steve Meyers
> http://www.xray-art.com
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 
> 
> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other
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