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Re: [Digital BW] 1160 Epson Banding on VM Sepia

2003-10-14 by Edward Wiseman

UPDATE..
I now am getting a  NO BLACK  nozzle check with the NEW CIS cartridge, and have re-installed the OEM Epson Dye cartridge set, and am getting PERFECT NOZZLE CHECKS, and DECENT color purge test at 360 DPI with virtually no banding at all..My problem definitely seems to be somewhere between my MIS INKS and my NO-MORE-CARTS CIS system..even though I have FRESH INK, and NEW carts successfully VACUUM FILLED!

Boy could I use some advice here!

TIA (again)
Eddie Wiseman
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: pahtspix 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 8:37 AM
  Subject: [Digital BW] 1160 Epson Banding on VM Sepia


  Hello All..
  My Epson 1160 has begun horizontal banding in the direction of print-
  head travel..I have a NO-MORE-CARTS setup, and have been using MIS VM 
  Inks until about a year ago, and have been using VM Sepia since then..
  (using Paul Roark's GREAT curves in both situations)..I've ALWAYS had 
  relatively MINOR clogging..usually on the black cartridge, which Ive 
  been able to "undo through multiple cleaning cycles/Windex-in-the-
  Trough, and then have no trouble for a week or two..I loaded NEW 
  carts when I switched to SEPIA, and a new BLACK cart only when MIS 
  went to EBONY on the black about 3 months ago..
     Well, I recently had the proverbial "CLOG-from-HELL" about 2 weeks 
  ago, and contacted both NO-MORE-CARTS direct(where I originally 
  purchased my CIS system}, and Bob from MIS and followed their advice 
  to no avail..Oh yes..I was able to get "perfect" nozzle checks..BUT, 
  I had VERY visible banding( even after VERY CAREFUL head re-
  allignment")..Bob advised that I had "foam" in the carts and sent me 
  a bottom fill adaptor, and NMC asked when I last changed my carts and 
  how old my ink was (all somewhat recently acqired by me)..
     I removed the CIS system, and replaced the carts with ORIGINALS 
  from Epson, and after MULTIPLE cleanings, I was able to get a good 
  nozzle check and virtually NO banding at 360 dpi..So I  assume my 
  printer with only about 150-200 prints is "OK"..I then decided that 
  my existing carts must be defective, so I purchased, installed and 
  filled a new set of CIS replacement carts from INKJET ART ( NO-MORE-
  CARTS no longer sells direct)..And guess what..after MORE 
  Windex/cleaning cycles and head alignments..I STILL have banding, but 
  not quite as bad as with the OLD carts, but still VERY visible to the 
  naked eye..I'm at the point where I'm close to trashing this unit..I 
  need some "creative help"..PLEASE!

  TIA

  Eddie Wiseman


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Re: [Digital BW] 1160 Epson Banding on VM Sepia

2003-10-15 by frankg_photo

Eddie,
I can certainly appreciate your frustration. Been there. I think the 
reason noone has come up with a suggestion/solution is that you 
appear to have covered all the bases. Just one small detail - is 
there any chance your paper thickness toggle lever has moved ? This 
can cause slight banding.
Also, I dont know the no more carts setup as I have a cfs from mis - 
but I've had the black ink tube gummed up which prevented ink flow - 
had to replace the tube. 
Frank

============================================================
> UPDATE..
> I now am getting a  NO BLACK  nozzle check with the NEW CIS 
cartridge, and have re-installed the OEM Epson Dye cartridge set, and 
am getting PERFECT NOZZLE CHECKS, and DECENT color purge test at 360 
DPI with virtually no banding at all..My problem definitely seems to 
be somewhere between my MIS INKS and my NO-MORE-CARTS CIS 
system..even though I have FRESH INK, and NEW carts successfully 
VACUUM FILLED!
> 
> Boy could I use some advice here!
> 
> TIA (again)
> Eddie Wiseman
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: pahtspix 
>   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 8:37 AM
>   Subject: [Digital BW] 1160 Epson Banding on VM Sepia
> 
> 
>   Hello All..
>   My Epson 1160 has begun horizontal banding in the direction of 
print-
>   head travel..I have a NO-MORE-CARTS setup, and have been using 
MIS VM 
>   Inks until about a year ago, and have been using VM Sepia since 
then..
>   (using Paul Roark's GREAT curves in both situations)..I've ALWAYS 
had 
>   relatively MINOR clogging..usually on the black cartridge, which 
Ive 
>   been able to "undo through multiple cleaning cycles/Windex-in-the-
>   Trough, and then have no trouble for a week or two..I loaded NEW 
>   carts when I switched to SEPIA, and a new BLACK cart only when 
MIS 
>   went to EBONY on the black about 3 months ago..
>      Well, I recently had the proverbial "CLOG-from-HELL" about 2 
weeks 
>   ago, and contacted both NO-MORE-CARTS direct(where I originally 
>   purchased my CIS system}, and Bob from MIS and followed their 
advice 
>   to no avail..Oh yes..I was able to get "perfect" nozzle 
checks..BUT, 
>   I had VERY visible banding( even after VERY CAREFUL head re-
>   allignment")..Bob advised that I had "foam" in the carts and sent 
me 
>   a bottom fill adaptor, and NMC asked when I last changed my carts 
and 
>   how old my ink was (all somewhat recently acqired by me)..
>      I removed the CIS system, and replaced the carts with 
ORIGINALS 
>   from Epson, and after MULTIPLE cleanings, I was able to get a 
good 
>   nozzle check and virtually NO banding at 360 dpi..So I  assume my 
>   printer with only about 150-200 prints is "OK"..I then decided 
that 
>   my existing carts must be defective, so I purchased, installed 
and 
>   filled a new set of CIS replacement carts from INKJET ART ( NO-
MORE-
>   CARTS no longer sells direct)..And guess what..after MORE 
>   Windex/cleaning cycles and head alignments..I STILL have banding, 
but 
>   not quite as bad as with the OLD carts, but still VERY visible to 
the 
>   naked eye..I'm at the point where I'm close to trashing this 
unit..I 
>   need some "creative help"..PLEASE!
> 
>   TIA
> 
>   Eddie Wiseman
> 
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Re: [Digital BW] 1160 Epson Banding on VM Sepia

2003-10-15 by Edward Wiseman

THX for your reply Frank, but I always keep my paper thickness switch on the "thick" position, but I also tried it on the "thin" setting as well..I use mostly Epson Enhanced Matte..NO difference on banding or nozzle checks..
As far as the TUBES go, each of the 4 tubes Was flushed with warm water and "blown-dry" before re-assembly, and there was NO evidence of tubes clogging with ink..

Eddie
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: frankg_photo 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 10:45 AM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] 1160 Epson Banding on VM Sepia


  Eddie,
  I can certainly appreciate your frustration. Been there. I think the 
  reason noone has come up with a suggestion/solution is that you 
  appear to have covered all the bases. Just one small detail - is 
  there any chance your paper thickness toggle lever has moved ? This 
  can cause slight banding.
  Also, I dont know the no more carts setup as I have a cfs from mis - 
  but I've had the black ink tube gummed up which prevented ink flow - 
  had to replace the tube. 
  Frank

  ============================================================
  > UPDATE..
  > I now am getting a  NO BLACK  nozzle check with the NEW CIS 
  cartridge, and have re-installed the OEM Epson Dye cartridge set, and 
  am getting PERFECT NOZZLE CHECKS, and DECENT color purge test at 360 
  DPI with virtually no banding at all..My problem definitely seems to 
  be somewhere between my MIS INKS and my NO-MORE-CARTS CIS 
  system..even though I have FRESH INK, and NEW carts successfully 
  VACUUM FILLED!
  > 
  > Boy could I use some advice here!
  > 
  > TIA (again)
  > Eddie Wiseman
  >   ----- Original Message ----- 
  >   From: pahtspix 
  >   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  >   Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 8:37 AM
  >   Subject: [Digital BW] 1160 Epson Banding on VM Sepia
  > 
  > 
  >   Hello All..
  >   My Epson 1160 has begun horizontal banding in the direction of 
  print-
  >   head travel..I have a NO-MORE-CARTS setup, and have been using 
  MIS VM 
  >   Inks until about a year ago, and have been using VM Sepia since 
  then..
  >   (using Paul Roark's GREAT curves in both situations)..I've ALWAYS 
  had 
  >   relatively MINOR clogging..usually on the black cartridge, which 
  Ive 
  >   been able to "undo through multiple cleaning cycles/Windex-in-the-
  >   Trough, and then have no trouble for a week or two..I loaded NEW 
  >   carts when I switched to SEPIA, and a new BLACK cart only when 
  MIS 
  >   went to EBONY on the black about 3 months ago..
  >      Well, I recently had the proverbial "CLOG-from-HELL" about 2 
  weeks 
  >   ago, and contacted both NO-MORE-CARTS direct(where I originally 
  >   purchased my CIS system}, and Bob from MIS and followed their 
  advice 
  >   to no avail..Oh yes..I was able to get "perfect" nozzle 
  checks..BUT, 
  >   I had VERY visible banding( even after VERY CAREFUL head re-
  >   allignment")..Bob advised that I had "foam" in the carts and sent 
  me 
  >   a bottom fill adaptor, and NMC asked when I last changed my carts 
  and 
  >   how old my ink was (all somewhat recently acqired by me)..
  >      I removed the CIS system, and replaced the carts with 
  ORIGINALS 
  >   from Epson, and after MULTIPLE cleanings, I was able to get a 
  good 
  >   nozzle check and virtually NO banding at 360 dpi..So I  assume my 
  >   printer with only about 150-200 prints is "OK"..I then decided 
  that 
  >   my existing carts must be defective, so I purchased, installed 
  and 
  >   filled a new set of CIS replacement carts from INKJET ART ( NO-
  MORE-
  >   CARTS no longer sells direct)..And guess what..after MORE 
  >   Windex/cleaning cycles and head alignments..I STILL have banding, 
  but 
  >   not quite as bad as with the OLD carts, but still VERY visible to 
  the 
  >   naked eye..I'm at the point where I'm close to trashing this 
  unit..I 
  >   need some "creative help"..PLEASE!
  > 
  >   TIA
  > 
  >   Eddie Wiseman
  > 
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