Digital BW, The Print

I just got off the phone with Epson earlier today and hit dead 
ends about the possibility of getting a Grey Balancer for my 2200.

  They only withheld this software (and cards) from the North 
American and Japanese markets.  
Gee- do you think they're trying to drive up their own paper sales?

  I've heard and read some very good things about this software... 
also that it is compatible with the 2200 (even though it was made 
for the European model -2100)

  If anybody knows where I can get one, (or if I can buy one off of 
you), please let me know.  

  Also, if you've used the Grey Balancer I love to hear your opinion 
on it.  I've only been able to read a fellow US'ers opinion.

  Also, if you have expierence with both the Grey Balancer with 
UltraChrome inks vs. Septones, I'd love to hear about it too.

 thank you,

 Kurt

>   Also, if you've used the Grey Balancer I love to hear your 
opinion on it.

I've tried to use the Grey Balancer and its just no good. You'll end 
up going thru large amounts of ink and paper thru a clunky trial-and-
error process that just ends up with unacceptable results. My advice 
is to save yourself the frustration and stay away from Grey Balancer.

yes indeed
plain and simple\ufffdit is pointless.

john e

--- sanfo2003 <SandyCornelius@...> wrote:
> >   Also, if you've used the Grey Balancer I love to
> hear your 
> opinion on it.
> 
> I've tried to use the Grey Balancer and its just no
> good. You'll end 
> up going thru large amounts of ink and paper thru a
> clunky trial-and-
> error process that just ends up with unacceptable
> results. My advice 
> is to save yourself the frustration and stay away
> from Grey Balancer.
> 
> 


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--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, john eckenrode
<ejohn182002@y...> wrote:

> yes indeed
> plain and simple–it is pointless.
> 
> john e
>

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, 
"kurttheaxe" <kurt@a...> wrote:
>   I just got off the phone with Epson earlier today and hit dead 
> ends about the possibility of getting a Grey Balancer for my 
2200.
> 
>   They only withheld this software (and cards) from the North 
> American and Japanese markets.  
> Gee- do you think they're trying to drive up their own paper 
sales?
> 
>   I've heard and read some very good things about this 
software... 
> also that it is compatible with the 2200 (even though it was 
made 
> for the European model -2100)
> 
>   If anybody knows where I can get one, (or if I can buy one off of 
> you), please let me know.  
> 
>   Also, if you've used the Grey Balancer I love to hear your 
opinion 
> on it.  I've only been able to read a fellow US'ers opinion.
> 
>   Also, if you have expierence with both the Grey Balancer with 
> UltraChrome inks vs. Septones, I'd love to hear about it too.
> 
>  thank you,
> 
>  Kurt

Kurt,

I tried the gray balancer and gave up on it.  It will only balance 
color for a single light source and then when viewed in a different 
light, I still get horrible metamerism.  

If you have a Mac:
I  tried OPM on my MAC this week.  It seems to work well but the 
profiles posted are mostly available for EEM paper and I want to 
use Velvet Fine Art or HPR.   It amazes me somewhat that 
people will go thru all of this trouble and then only print on a 
paper such as EEM (non archival).  Don't get me wrong, EEM is a 
nice paper and I use it all the time - for proofing.  But I would like 
to do exhibition prints on an acid-free, 100% cotton paper.

If you have a MAC, you can buy Ink Jet  Control SW for $199.  This 
will allow you to make your own profiles for OPM but I believe you 
also need a densitometer - thus more money.  The other 
drawback to OPM is that you can only use a USB connection to 
your printer.  So I had to disconnect my  long firewire cable, move 
the printer next to my computer and connect a short USB cable.  
OPM also requires that you  flatten your PS image and convert to 
a GS tif.

There is another free solution called QTR for MAC's but it 
requires OSX.  But I am not sure if there are profiles available for 
papers besides EEM.

I have not tried Septones and haven't seen much comment 
regarding it.  The sample I received from Inkjetgoodies looked 
beautiful.

Hope this helps,

Dave Gordon
http://www.davegordonphotography.com

Its just a pain, nothing else.
Bernd



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, 
"kurttheaxe" <kurt@a...> wrote:
>   I just got off the phone with Epson earlier today and hit dead 
> ends about the possibility of getting a Grey Balancer for my 
2200.
> 
>   They only withheld this software (and cards) from the North 
> American and Japanese markets.  
> Gee- do you think they're trying to drive up their own paper 
sales?
> 
>   I've heard and read some very good things about this 
software... 
> also that it is compatible with the 2200 (even though it was 
made 
> for the European model -2100)
> 
>   If anybody knows where I can get one, (or if I can buy one off of 
> you), please let me know.  
> 
>   Also, if you've used the Grey Balancer I love to hear your 
opinion 

> on it.  I've only been able to read a fellow US'ers opinion.
> 
>   Also, if you have expierence with both the Grey Balancer with 
> UltraChrome inks vs. Septones, I'd love to hear about it too.
> 
>  thank you,
> 
>  Kurt