Digital BW, The Print

On Fri, 2003-12-12 at 01:58, Roy Harrington wrote:
> I just uploaded a new version of QTR.
> 2200 installation is much easier now.
> 
> See:
> http://www.harrington.com/QuadToneRIP.html
> 
> Roy Harrington
> 
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> Hi Roy,
> 
> Sorry for a dumb question but can beta 9 be loaded directly over beta 8
> in a Mac using Panther?

> 
> I just uploaded a new version of QTR.
> 2200 installation is much easier now.
> 
> See:
> http://www.harrington.com/QuadToneRIP.html
> 
> Roy Harrington

On Saturday, December 13, 2003, at 12:25  PM, Steve Kale wrote:

>
> Just one thing that is a little confusing for the 2100/2200 users:   
> within
> the Profiles| QUAD2200 folder are profiles for EEM, OFB and PFA.  The  
> readme
> refers to HPR, BES, EEM and OFB.  What is PFA?  Within the CurveDesign
> folder there is a sub-folder ExampleInks which contains 2200_Profiles  
> for
> EEM, OFB, PFA.  Presumably these are the same profiles as those in  
> Profiles
> | QUAD2200.  Have the curves for HPR, BES not changed/don’t need to  
> change?
> (Carl also did some profiles for SPE [Somerset Photo Enhanced], a paper
> widely on sale in the UK as Somerset Enhanced Velvet.  Will these  
> profiles
> also need to be updated?)  Actually, I see HPR and SPE are in  
> CurveDropBox |
> QUAD2200 despite not being in the two profiles folders -  looks like  
> BES
> didn’t make the cut.  (If they are already in the drop box it may be  
> less
> confusing to include the two profiles folders – presumably the drop  
> box ones
> are used in the installation as HPR and SPE are available for use.)     
> Of
> course it all works and perhaps this is just tidy up but nonetheless  
> it may
> relieve some future confusion.
>
> Lastly I assume that all the 2200 profiles are for use with Ultrachrome
> inks, rather than another ink set.  Can Roy or Carl confirm this.
>
> Thanks – I love this RIP!
>
> Steve
>
>
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On Saturday, December 13, 2003, at 12:53  PM, Carl Schofield wrote:

> Steve,
>
> Sorry for the confusion.  There is an updated read-me with new paper
> descriptions in the QTRbeta 9 archive on my filesharing site (link
> below).  I haven't re-done the profiles for SPE, BES, and HPR because
> I'm not currently using these papers.  You should be able to easily
> modify the old profiles - just re-check the partitioning and then
> re-linearize.  All of the new profiles are for use with the Ultrachrome
> inks.  The HPR and SPE profiles you see in your CurveDropBox folder are
> ones that you installed previously - they were not included in beta9.
>
> Carl
>
> On Saturday, December 13, 2003, at 12:25  PM, Steve Kale wrote:
>
>>
>> Just one thing that is a little confusing for the 2100/2200 users:
>> within
>> the Profiles| QUAD2200 folder are profiles for EEM, OFB and PFA.  The
>> readme
>> refers to HPR, BES, EEM and OFB.  What is PFA?  Within the CurveDesign
>> folder there is a sub-folder ExampleInks which contains 2200_Profiles
>> for
>> EEM, OFB, PFA.  Presumably these are the same profiles as those in
>> Profiles
>> | QUAD2200.  Have the curves for HPR, BES not changed/don’t need to
>> change?
>> (Carl also did some profiles for SPE [Somerset Photo Enhanced], a  
>> paper
>> widely on sale in the UK as Somerset Enhanced Velvet.  Will these
>> profiles
>> also need to be updated?)  Actually, I see HPR and SPE are in
>> CurveDropBox |
>> QUAD2200 despite not being in the two profiles folders -  looks like
>> BES
>> didn’t make the cut.  (If they are already in the drop box it may be
>> less
>> confusing to include the two profiles folders – presumably the drop
>> box ones
>> are used in the installation as HPR and SPE are available for use.)
>> Of
>> course it all works and perhaps this is just tidy up but nonetheless
>> it may
>> relieve some future confusion.
>>
>> Lastly I assume that all the 2200 profiles are for use with  
>> Ultrachrome
>> inks, rather than another ink set.  Can Roy or Carl confirm this.
>>
>> Thanks – I love this RIP!
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
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> From: Carl Schofield <scho@...>
> Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:53:05 -0500
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] QuadToneRIP --  new version for Jaguar and Panther
> 
> Steve,
> 
> Sorry for the confusion.  There is an updated read-me with new paper
> descriptions in the QTRbeta 9 archive on my filesharing site (link
> below).  I haven't re-done the profiles for SPE, BES, and HPR because
> I'm not currently using these papers.  You should be able to easily
> modify the old profiles - just re-check the partitioning and then
> re-linearize.  All of the new profiles are for use with the Ultrachrome
> inks.  The HPR and SPE profiles you see in your CurveDropBox folder are
> ones that you installed previously - they were not included in beta9.
> 
> Carl
> 
>

From: Steve Kale <stevekale@...>
Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:21:52 +0000
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] QuadToneRIP --  new version for Jaguar and Panther

Carl

Thanks, I will take a look at the ReadMe.  I am puzzled by your last
sentence because they exist in the original CurveDropBox folder downloaded
from Roy's site and the new CurveDesign folder replaced the old one. I am
afraid it may take me some time to come up to speed with the notion of
checking partitioning and re-linearizing although I have to get into this
soon! (I guess the old profiles are now not much good with the new QTR
version? I am currently mostly using HPR.)

One last question: with all the discussion about Eboni black I am wondering
if there would be considerable benefit to using it instead of the Epson
Ultrachrome Matt Black cartridges - ie making a simple, small step to better
B&W by upgrading one ink and still using the other Epson Ultrachromes and
QTR.  Given Ebony is priced at a healthy premium to Epson UC Matt Black (vs
Atlex.com pricing) the difference had better be more than fussing at the
margin.  Any thoughts?  (My assumption would be to use Ebony for matt colour
work also - ie simply purchase Ebony from now on vs UC matt black.)

Cheers

Steve

> From: Carl Schofield <scho@...>
> Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:53:05 -0500
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] QuadToneRIP --  new version for Jaguar and Panther
> 
> Steve,
> 
> Sorry for the confusion.  There is an updated read-me with new paper
> descriptions in the QTRbeta 9 archive on my filesharing site (link
> below).  I haven't re-done the profiles for SPE, BES, and HPR because
> I'm not currently using these papers.  You should be able to easily
> modify the old profiles - just re-check the partitioning and then
> re-linearize.  All of the new profiles are for use with the Ultrachrome
> inks.  The HPR and SPE profiles you see in your CurveDropBox folder are
> ones that you installed previously - they were not included in beta9.
> 
> Carl
> 
>




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

On Saturday, December 13, 2003, at 01:21  PM, Steve Kale wrote:

> Carl
>
> Thanks, I will take a look at the ReadMe.  I am puzzled by your last
> sentence because they exist in the original CurveDropBox folder  
> downloaded
> from Roy's site and the new CurveDesign folder replaced the old one. I  
> am
> afraid it may take me some time to come up to speed with the notion of
> checking partitioning and re-linearizing although I have to get into  
> this
> soon! (I guess the old profiles are now not much good with the new QTR
> version? I am currently mostly using HPR.)
>
> One last question: with all the discussion about Eboni black I am  
> wondering
> if there would be considerable benefit to using it instead of the Epson
> Ultrachrome Matt Black cartridges - ie making a simple, small step to  
> better
> B&W by upgrading one ink and still using the other Epson Ultrachromes  
> and
> QTR.  Given Ebony is priced at a healthy premium to Epson UC Matt  
> Black (vs
> Atlex.com pricing) the difference had better be more than fussing at  
> the
> margin.  Any thoughts?  (My assumption would be to use Ebony for matt  
> colour
> work also - ie simply purchase Ebony from now on vs UC matt black.)
>
> Cheers
>
> Steve
>
>> From: Carl Schofield <scho@...>
>> Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:53:05 -0500
>> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] QuadToneRIP --  new version for Jaguar and  
>> Panther
>>
>> Steve,
>>
>> Sorry for the confusion.  There is an updated read-me with new paper
>> descriptions in the QTRbeta 9 archive on my filesharing site (link
>> below).  I haven't re-done the profiles for SPE, BES, and HPR because
>> I'm not currently using these papers.  You should be able to easily
>> modify the old profiles - just re-check the partitioning and then
>> re-linearize.  All of the new profiles are for use with the  
>> Ultrachrome
>> inks.  The HPR and SPE profiles you see in your CurveDropBox folder  
>> are
>> ones that you installed previously - they were not included in beta9.
>>
>> Carl
>>
>>
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On Saturday, December 13, 2003, at 01:33  PM, Steve Kale wrote:

> Sorry, the ReadMe discusses warm, cool and sepia.  What are the CoolSe
> profiles?  I apologise if these are really dumb questions but I prefer 
> not
> to guess...
>
> (I also assume the EEM, OFB and PFA profiles on your download page are 
> the
> same as those that come with the install package from Roy’s site.)

> From: Carl Schofield <scho@...>
> Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:44:55 -0500
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] QuadToneRIP --  new version for Jaguar and Panther
> 
> Steve,
> 
> If you installed QTR beta9 over the existing beta8 and had profiles
> already installed in beta8 the old profiles will still be in your
> CurveDropBox folder.  If the new profiles that you installed with beta9
> have the same names as the old ones the old ones would be overwritten
> with the new profiles.  Since HPR was not included in beta9, what you
> see in your CurveDropBox folder is the old HPR profile.  I have a new
> batch of HPR coming next week and will try to get a new profile
> uploaded.
> 
> I don't think you would see much difference between MK and Eboni,
> unless you are doing BO printing.
> 
> Carl
> On Saturday, December 13, 2003, at 01:21  PM, Steve Kale wrote:
>

> From: Carl Schofield <scho@...>
> Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:46:27 -0500
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] QuadToneRIP --  new version for Jaguar and Panther
> 
> The CoolSe profiles have a slightly higher ratio of LM/LC to give a
> selenium toned appearance.
> Yes, profiles are the same.
> On Saturday, December 13, 2003, at 01:33  PM, Steve Kale wrote:
> 
>> Sorry, the ReadMe discusses warm, cool and sepia.  What are the CoolSe
>> profiles?  I apologise if these are really dumb questions but I prefer
>> not
>> to guess...
>> 
>> (I also assume the EEM, OFB and PFA profiles on your download page are
>> the
>> same as those that come with the install package from Roy¹s site.)
> 
> 
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From: Carl Schofield <scho@...>
Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:27:42 -0500
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] QuadToneRIP --  new version for Jaguar and Panther

Steve,

On Saturday, December 13, 2003, at 02:12  PM, Steve Kale wrote:

> Carl
>
> The HPR and SPE profiles are in the beta9 CurveDropBox that is
> downloaded
> from Roy's site - ie in the dmg file prior to installing anything.  If
> these
> profiles are no longer appropriate they may throw people off.

When you mount the disk image you are seeing the profiles from your
previous installation in the CurveDropBox - they are not in the
download.

Carl





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> 
> I just printed the same image I have been working on for the last couple of
> days using BO and the Epson UC matt black and I was not that impressed - I
> much prefer the smoothness of the QTR print. (The image is of the Tetons
> after the first snow in late Sep/early Oct last year with the last remains
> of cloud clearing the mountain.  The differences between BO and QTR are very
> apparent in the clouds.) A matter of taste I am sure but I will stick with
> QTR.
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> > From: Carl Schofield <scho@m...>
> > Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:44:55 -0500
> > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] QuadToneRIP --  new version for Jaguar and Panther
> > 
> > Steve,
> > 
> > If you installed QTR beta9 over the existing beta8 and had profiles
> > already installed in beta8 the old profiles will still be in your
> > CurveDropBox folder.  If the new profiles that you installed with beta9
> > have the same names as the old ones the old ones would be overwritten
> > with the new profiles.  Since HPR was not included in beta9, what you
> > see in your CurveDropBox folder is the old HPR profile.  I have a new
> > batch of HPR coming next week and will try to get a new profile
> > uploaded.
> > 
> > I don't think you would see much difference between MK and Eboni,
> > unless you are doing BO printing.
> > 
> > Carl
> > On Saturday, December 13, 2003, at 01:21  PM, Steve Kale wrote:
> >