Digital BW, The Print

Enhanced is the same as Archival matte, name change only. Matt heavyweight
precedes them and was introduced for the 1280 dye printer.  The actual
difference between these two papers is that the enhanced is whiter than the
HW but also has a much coarser surface which acts like a blotter. It has a
heavier weight than the Matt HW.  The enhanced with matte black ink seems a
good combination.   I sometimes use the HW with the 2200 and it works fine
and seems similar to the enhanced, although to get the blackest blacks the
enhanced is the better paper.  If you have leftover HW from 1280 days, use
it.

Julio Fernandez

Thanks for the detailed info, Julio.

I've got 100 sheets of HVWT Matte that I bought when using a canon dye 
printer. I now have a 1280 and plan to use the MIS Ultra Tone inks 
exclusively (as soon as they get here). I imagine I'll use up about half 
that supply of HVWT matte just getting comfy with the new inks and the 
Roark process, after which point I'll want to switch over to the 
Enhanced matte paper (for the sake of longevity).

Can I expect that prints on the HVWT Matte and Enhanced Matte will look 
the same? or am I just wasting my time and money trying to tweak all the 
settings with HVWT Matte if the plan is to switch over to Enhanced Matte 
as soon as I've got everything figured out?

Also, I have 100 sheets of Enhanced Matte (13 x 19) and didn't notice 
any epson logo on the back? how hard is it to find?

Thanks,

Mike

Julio Fernandez wrote:

> Enhanced is the same as Archival matte, name change only. Matt heavyweight
> precedes them and was introduced for the 1280 dye printer.  The actual
> difference between these two papers is that the enhanced is whiter 
> than the
> HW but also has a much coarser surface which acts like a blotter. It has a
> heavier weight than the Matt HW.  The enhanced with matte black ink 
> seems a
> good combination.   I sometimes use the HW with the 2200 and it works fine
> and seems similar to the enhanced, although to get the blackest blacks the
> enhanced is the better paper.  If you have leftover HW from 1280 days, use
> it.
>
> Julio Fernandez
>
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
<snip>
> Roark process, after which point I'll want to switch over to the 
> Enhanced matte paper (for the sake of longevity).
Snip>

Everything I've read anywhere says that HWM actually has better print
longevity than Enhanced Matte, so don't switch for that reason.

Thanks,
Ed
http://lightandsilver.com

Oh boy, now I'm confused...

Can anybody corroborate Ed's claim that HWM has better longevity than EM?

Thanks,

Mike

Ed Mathews wrote:

> > -----Original Message-----
> <snip>
> > Roark process, after which point I'll want to switch over to the
> > Enhanced matte paper (for the sake of longevity).
> Snip>
>
> Everything I've read anywhere says that HWM actually has better print
> longevity than Enhanced Matte, so don't switch for that reason.
>
> Thanks,
> Ed
> http://lightandsilver.com
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Check here for Epson's claims:

http://www.epson.com/cmc_upload/0/000/018/673/Print%20Permanence%20on%20
Epson%20Papers.pdf

We've talked about this before, and other testers have reported similar
results.  I think it has to do with brighteners added to EM that
eventually yellow with time.

Ed

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Sommers [mailto:mike@...] 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 10:18 AM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Enhanced,Archival and Matte 
> heavyweight Differences
> 
> 
> Oh boy, now I'm confused...
> 
> Can anybody corroborate Ed's claim that HWM has better 
> longevity than EM?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mike
> 
> Ed Mathews wrote:
> 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > <snip>
> > > Roark process, after which point I'll want to switch over to the
> > > Enhanced matte paper (for the sake of longevity).
> > Snip>
> >
> > Everything I've read anywhere says that HWM actually has 
> better print
> > longevity than Enhanced Matte, so don't switch for that reason.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ed
> > http://lightandsilver.com
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