Digital BW, The Print

Since the feature is designed to keep ya from steallin', why would they?

BC

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Editor P.O.V. Image Service [mailto:editor@...]
  Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 12:19 AM
  To: Digital B&W
  Subject: [Digital BW] [OT] ADOBE's Response



  What follows is Dan Margulis's report of ADOBE's response. To cut to the
  chase: Of course they've failed completely to answer the all important
  question of why they gave no a priori notice of the new "feature."



  "

  Folks,

  The following was posted at Adobeforums this evening by Kevin Connor, a
  prominent member of the Photoshop team, in response to the concerns
  expressed over the anticounterfeiting technology incorporated in Photoshop
  CS.

  Dan Margulis
  _______________________

  As someone at Adobe who was involved in the decision to include
counterfeit
  deterrence in Photoshop CS, let me finally provide you with a response
  to all
  of these concerns and questions. Sorry for the delay!:

  Photoshop CS does indeed include a counterfeit deterrence system (CDS) to
  prevent the illegal duplication of banknotes. The CDS was created by a
  consortium of central banks from around the world. We, along with other
  hardware and software manufacturers, have included CDS in our products at
  their request to address the threat posed by the use of digital
  technologies in
  the counterfeiting of banknotes. There are other software products from
  other
  companies that already use this same technology. There are also hardware
  products that use the same or similar technology. For example, most color
  copiers sold today will not allow you to copy currency.

  As digital imaging technology advances, becoming more broadly available
  and user friendly, the old barriers to currency reproduction are
  becoming less
  effective. The unscrupulous are taking advantage of the functionality
  that is
  being provided to the vast majority of honest users for the purposes of
  counterfeiting currency. In the US and around the world, counterfeiting
  through digital means is increasing exponentially, and retailers and the
  general public--including our own customers--are at risk.

  Counterfeit currency is essentially a hot potato. Whoever holds it last,
  loses.
  The person who loses isn't necessarily the counterfeiter. There's no
  government body in place to "reimburse" people who, through no fault of
  their
  own, get paid with currency that turns out to be counterfeit. In our
  implementation of CDS, we've worked very hard to balance the need to
  protect these unsuspecting victims of counterfeiting along with the need
to
  continue to provide a product that efficiently does what honest customers
  need it to do.

  There appear to be several major concerns and objections repeated
  throughout this message thread, so I'll try to address each one
  individually:

  1. Performance: CDS does not cause any noticeable slowdown in Photoshop
  performance. During most operations performed in Photoshop, CDS is not
  used at all. When it is used, the performance impact often is just a
  fraction of a
  second.

  2. Legal use of notes: It is true that the current implementation of CDS
  will
  prevent you from scanning in your own banknotes even if your usage
  intent is
  entirely within legal boundaries. Regulations for using banknote images
  vary
  by country. It is the responsibility of the central bank in each country
  to provide
  images that can be used within the legal guidelines of that country. In
  other
  words, if you want to legally reproduce images of the new $20US bills on a
  Web site or in a marketing brochure, you can contact the U.S. Bureau of
  Engraving and Printing for legal images that can be opened and manipulated
  in Photoshop CS. (You can visit them at www.moneyfactory.com.) Similar
  solutions should be available in other countries. If you find that your
  central
  bank is not providing adequate support to permit legal uses of their
  banknote
  images, then you should let them know.

  3. Adobe's intentions: Please be assured that this implementation of CDS
is
  not a step down the road towards Adobe becoming "Big Brother." We know
  that one of the reasons people love Photoshop is because it's an
incredibly
  flexible tool that can be used for so many different things. That's also
  one of
  the reasons we at Adobe enjoy working on new versions. Finding ways to
  prevent you from doing things in Photoshop really doesn't interest us!

  Moreover, the CDS is not Adobe technology, but was provided by the central
  banks, who would have no reason to want to restrict anything other than
  bank
  notes. Counterfeiting is really a special case in which we could see how
  our
  own technology advances were making it easier to commit crimes and we
  were asked to implement a solution that would have minimal impact on
  honest customers. Yes, there is some impact, in that you need to contact
  your
  central bank for images, but our hope is that it's not a huge
  inconvenience for
  that small group of customers who do need to reproduce these images in
  their
  graphic design work. It also provides the central banks with an
  opportunity to
  better educate customers on exactly what is and isn't legal usage.

  Of course, CDS in Photoshop CS is essentially a 1.0 implementation of a
  feature, analogous to the state of the layers palette in Photoshop 3.0. We
  realize that there may be room for improvement, particularly if there
  are corner
  usage cases that weren't taken into account in our current designs. We do
  want to hear about your concerns, and we definitely want to hear if
  there's a
  specific problem that this implementation has created for you. As with any
  Photoshop feature, we depend on hearing from customers so that we can
  make continual improvements release after release. "








  Keith Krebs

  "Just some guy," caretaker of the Multiverse's largest EPSON printer
  User Community (highly recommended by Vogon Poets and MegaDodo
  Publications), at:
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EPSON_Printers/
  and  the Multiverse's largest Canon printer User  Community at:
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Canon-printers
  "For the rest of you out there, the secret is to bang the rocks together
  guys"



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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

What follows is Dan Margulis's report of ADOBE's response. To cut to the
chase: Of course they've failed completely to answer the all important
question of why they gave no a priori notice of the new "feature."



"

Folks,

The following was posted at Adobeforums this evening by Kevin Connor, a
prominent member of the Photoshop team, in response to the concerns
expressed over the anticounterfeiting technology incorporated in Photoshop
CS.

Dan Margulis
_______________________

As someone at Adobe who was involved in the decision to include counterfeit
deterrence in Photoshop CS, let me finally provide you with a response 
to all
of these concerns and questions. Sorry for the delay!:

Photoshop CS does indeed include a counterfeit deterrence system (CDS) to
prevent the illegal duplication of banknotes. The CDS was created by a
consortium of central banks from around the world. We, along with other
hardware and software manufacturers, have included CDS in our products at
their request to address the threat posed by the use of digital 
technologies in
the counterfeiting of banknotes. There are other software products from 
other
companies that already use this same technology. There are also hardware
products that use the same or similar technology. For example, most color
copiers sold today will not allow you to copy currency.

As digital imaging technology advances, becoming more broadly available
and user friendly, the old barriers to currency reproduction are 
becoming less
effective. The unscrupulous are taking advantage of the functionality 
that is
being provided to the vast majority of honest users for the purposes of
counterfeiting currency. In the US and around the world, counterfeiting
through digital means is increasing exponentially, and retailers and the
general public--including our own customers--are at risk.

Counterfeit currency is essentially a hot potato. Whoever holds it last, 
loses.
The person who loses isn't necessarily the counterfeiter. There's no
government body in place to "reimburse" people who, through no fault of 
their
own, get paid with currency that turns out to be counterfeit. In our
implementation of CDS, we've worked very hard to balance the need to
protect these unsuspecting victims of counterfeiting along with the need to
continue to provide a product that efficiently does what honest customers
need it to do.

There appear to be several major concerns and objections repeated
throughout this message thread, so I'll try to address each one 
individually:

1. Performance: CDS does not cause any noticeable slowdown in Photoshop
performance. During most operations performed in Photoshop, CDS is not
used at all. When it is used, the performance impact often is just a 
fraction of a
second.

2. Legal use of notes: It is true that the current implementation of CDS 
will
prevent you from scanning in your own banknotes even if your usage 
intent is
entirely within legal boundaries. Regulations for using banknote images 
vary
by country. It is the responsibility of the central bank in each country 
to provide
images that can be used within the legal guidelines of that country. In 
other
words, if you want to legally reproduce images of the new $20US bills on a
Web site or in a marketing brochure, you can contact the U.S. Bureau of
Engraving and Printing for legal images that can be opened and manipulated
in Photoshop CS. (You can visit them at www.moneyfactory.com.) Similar
solutions should be available in other countries. If you find that your 
central
bank is not providing adequate support to permit legal uses of their 
banknote
images, then you should let them know.

3. Adobe's intentions: Please be assured that this implementation of CDS is
not a step down the road towards Adobe becoming "Big Brother." We know
that one of the reasons people love Photoshop is because it's an incredibly
flexible tool that can be used for so many different things. That's also 
one of
the reasons we at Adobe enjoy working on new versions. Finding ways to
prevent you from doing things in Photoshop really doesn't interest us!

Moreover, the CDS is not Adobe technology, but was provided by the central
banks, who would have no reason to want to restrict anything other than 
bank
notes. Counterfeiting is really a special case in which we could see how 
our
own technology advances were making it easier to commit crimes and we
were asked to implement a solution that would have minimal impact on
honest customers. Yes, there is some impact, in that you need to contact 
your
central bank for images, but our hope is that it's not a huge 
inconvenience for
that small group of customers who do need to reproduce these images in 
their
graphic design work. It also provides the central banks with an 
opportunity to
better educate customers on exactly what is and isn't legal usage.

Of course, CDS in Photoshop CS is essentially a 1.0 implementation of a
feature, analogous to the state of the layers palette in Photoshop 3.0. We
realize that there may be room for improvement, particularly if there 
are corner
usage cases that weren't taken into account in our current designs. We do
want to hear about your concerns, and we definitely want to hear if 
there's a
specific problem that this implementation has created for you. As with any
Photoshop feature, we depend on hearing from customers so that we can
make continual improvements release after release. "








Keith Krebs

"Just some guy," caretaker of the Multiverse's largest EPSON printer
User Community (highly recommended by Vogon Poets and MegaDodo
Publications), at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EPSON_Printers/
and  the Multiverse's largest Canon printer User  Community at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Canon-printers
"For the rest of you out there, the secret is to bang the rocks together
guys"



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Editor P.O.V. Image Service writes:

> Photoshop CS does indeed include a counterfeit deterrence system (CDS) to
> prevent the illegal duplication of banknotes. The CDS was created by a
> consortium of central banks from around the world. We, along with other
> hardware and software manufacturers, have included CDS in our products at
> their request ...

What happened to the requests of people who actually buy Adobe products?
Maybe people should stop buying the products, and let Adobe live off the
non-revenue-generating requests of non-customers.  Since when are
central banks in the graphics arts and printing businesses?

Hi,

Unless someone can explain differently, it's the scanner driver that scans
the image...so unless the scanner driver contains this CDS stuff, it's
really moot what Adobe does, as you can still scan the currency using just
the scanner driver and some other application.

Regards,

Austin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Editor P.O.V. Image Service [mailto:editor@...]
> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 1:19 AM
> To: Digital B&W
> Subject: [Digital BW] [OT] ADOBE's Response
>
>
>
> What follows is Dan Margulis's report of ADOBE's response. To cut to the
> chase: Of course they've failed completely to answer the all important
> question of why they gave no a priori notice of the new "feature."
>
>
>
> "
>
> Folks,
>
> The following was posted at Adobeforums this evening by Kevin Connor, a
> prominent member of the Photoshop team, in response to the concerns
> expressed over the anticounterfeiting technology incorporated in Photoshop
> CS.
>
> Dan Margulis
> _______________________
>
> As someone at Adobe who was involved in the decision to include
> counterfeit
> deterrence in Photoshop CS, let me finally provide you with a response
> to all
> of these concerns and questions. Sorry for the delay!:
>
> Photoshop CS does indeed include a counterfeit deterrence system (CDS) to
> prevent the illegal duplication of banknotes. The CDS was created by a
> consortium of central banks from around the world. We, along with other
> hardware and software manufacturers, have included CDS in our products at
> their request to address the threat posed by the use of digital
> technologies in
> the counterfeiting of banknotes. There are other software products from
> other
> companies that already use this same technology. There are also hardware
> products that use the same or similar technology. For example, most color
> copiers sold today will not allow you to copy currency.
>
> As digital imaging technology advances, becoming more broadly available
> and user friendly, the old barriers to currency reproduction are
> becoming less
> effective. The unscrupulous are taking advantage of the functionality
> that is
> being provided to the vast majority of honest users for the purposes of
> counterfeiting currency. In the US and around the world, counterfeiting
> through digital means is increasing exponentially, and retailers and the
> general public--including our own customers--are at risk.
>
> Counterfeit currency is essentially a hot potato. Whoever holds it last,
> loses.
> The person who loses isn't necessarily the counterfeiter. There's no
> government body in place to "reimburse" people who, through no fault of
> their
> own, get paid with currency that turns out to be counterfeit. In our
> implementation of CDS, we've worked very hard to balance the need to
> protect these unsuspecting victims of counterfeiting along with
> the need to
> continue to provide a product that efficiently does what honest customers
> need it to do.
>
> There appear to be several major concerns and objections repeated
> throughout this message thread, so I'll try to address each one
> individually:
>
> 1. Performance: CDS does not cause any noticeable slowdown in Photoshop
> performance. During most operations performed in Photoshop, CDS is not
> used at all. When it is used, the performance impact often is just a
> fraction of a
> second.
>
> 2. Legal use of notes: It is true that the current implementation of CDS
> will
> prevent you from scanning in your own banknotes even if your usage
> intent is
> entirely within legal boundaries. Regulations for using banknote images
> vary
> by country. It is the responsibility of the central bank in each country
> to provide
> images that can be used within the legal guidelines of that country. In
> other
> words, if you want to legally reproduce images of the new $20US bills on a
> Web site or in a marketing brochure, you can contact the U.S. Bureau of
> Engraving and Printing for legal images that can be opened and manipulated
> in Photoshop CS. (You can visit them at www.moneyfactory.com.) Similar
> solutions should be available in other countries. If you find that your
> central
> bank is not providing adequate support to permit legal uses of their
> banknote
> images, then you should let them know.
>
> 3. Adobe's intentions: Please be assured that this implementation
> of CDS is
> not a step down the road towards Adobe becoming "Big Brother." We know
> that one of the reasons people love Photoshop is because it's an
> incredibly
> flexible tool that can be used for so many different things. That's also
> one of
> the reasons we at Adobe enjoy working on new versions. Finding ways to
> prevent you from doing things in Photoshop really doesn't interest us!
>
> Moreover, the CDS is not Adobe technology, but was provided by the central
> banks, who would have no reason to want to restrict anything other than
> bank
> notes. Counterfeiting is really a special case in which we could see how
> our
> own technology advances were making it easier to commit crimes and we
> were asked to implement a solution that would have minimal impact on
> honest customers. Yes, there is some impact, in that you need to contact
> your
> central bank for images, but our hope is that it's not a huge
> inconvenience for
> that small group of customers who do need to reproduce these images in
> their
> graphic design work. It also provides the central banks with an
> opportunity to
> better educate customers on exactly what is and isn't legal usage.
>
> Of course, CDS in Photoshop CS is essentially a 1.0 implementation of a
> feature, analogous to the state of the layers palette in Photoshop 3.0. We
> realize that there may be room for improvement, particularly if there
> are corner
> usage cases that weren't taken into account in our current designs. We do
> want to hear about your concerns, and we definitely want to hear if
> there's a
> specific problem that this implementation has created for you. As with any
> Photoshop feature, we depend on hearing from customers so that we can
> make continual improvements release after release. "
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Keith Krebs
>
> "Just some guy," caretaker of the Multiverse's largest EPSON printer
> User Community (highly recommended by Vogon Poets and MegaDodo
> Publications), at:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EPSON_Printers/
> and  the Multiverse's largest Canon printer User  Community at:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Canon-printers
> "For the rest of you out there, the secret is to bang the rocks together
> guys"
>
>
>
> ****************************************************************
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> Keith Krebs, 2001-2004, All Rights Reserved. It is expressly for the
> sole use of the intended recipient and may contain confidential and
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> violation of these conditions shall be subject to a $1500/image
> liquidated damages charge, in addition to any applicable Copyright
> violation penalties.
>
>
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> Hi,
>
> Unless someone can explain differently, it's the scanner driver that scans
> the image...so unless the scanner driver contains this CDS stuff, it's
> really moot what Adobe does, as you can still scan the currency using just
> the scanner driver and some other application.
>
> Regards,
>
> Austin

Austin,

Apparently it's been in most/many colour copiers for some time - so I
wouldn't be surprised if scanner drivers are next, if it's not already in
some major ones.

tim

Hi Tim,

But...even at that, putting it in Adobe is moot.  BTW, older scanners are
easily available...and the documentation of the command sets for scanners
are readily available (and certainly easily reverse engineered via a SCSI
bus analyzer)...and even at that, developing a scanner isn't really a *big*
deal, when you're talking minting millions of dollars, so unless it's built
into the linear sensor, which is obviously silly, all there preventing is
you and I from printing our own money, which I doubt is a significant source
of counterfeiting...but hey, if it makes them feel more secure (kind of like
locking your screen door ;-), who am I to question it.

Regards,

Austin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Atherton [mailto:timatherton@...]
> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 11:00 AM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Digital BW] [OT] ADOBE's Response
>
>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Unless someone can explain differently, it's the scanner driver
> that scans
> > the image...so unless the scanner driver contains this CDS stuff, it's
> > really moot what Adobe does, as you can still scan the currency
> using just
> > the scanner driver and some other application.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Austin
>
> Austin,
>
> Apparently it's been in most/many colour copiers for some time - so I
> wouldn't be surprised if scanner drivers are next, if it's not already in
> some major ones.
>
> tim
>
>
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> Hi Tim,
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> But...even at that, putting it in Adobe is moot.  BTW, older scanners are
> easily available...and the documentation of the command sets for scanners
> are readily available (and certainly easily reverse engineered via a SCSI
> bus analyzer)...and even at that, developing a scanner isn't
> really a *big*
> deal, when you're talking minting millions of dollars, so unless
> it's built
> into the linear sensor, which is obviously silly, all there preventing is
> you and I from printing our own money, which I doubt is a
> significant source
> of counterfeiting...but hey, if it makes them feel more secure
> (kind of like
> locking your screen door ;-), who am I to question it.
>
> Regards,
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> Austin

I know - the only people I can see this discouraging and possibly stopping
(and even that is doubtful) are the teenage and Mom and Pop counterfeiters -
kids doing at school or home, people who think - hey this Epson prints
pretty well, I could make a few dollars. And although you often see news
reports about them, I very much doubt this is a serious percentage of the
fake moolah out there.

Meanwhile, it inconveniences legit users of course. I posted on another list
how a Photo Editor friend discovered this "feature" recently, before all the
hoopla.

There were counterfeit notes in their community so they did a story on it.
With the  local PD and the Secret Service, they got a bunch of the
counterfeit notes and had the cops do a compare and contrast - this is what
to look for etc.

Well, when they tried to open the images their photog had taken, half
wouldn't open - even one where the note was fairly small being held by a
cop. So, they wasted time trying to figure out what was wrong - digital
camera malfunction? corrupted image file? photoshop problem? Fiddling around
going WTF. They finally figured out basically what it was then had to find a
work around (which was easier - PS7). So, here is an entirely legitimate
use, actually working with law enforcement and the Secret Service, and this
hidden "feature" cost them time, money and frustration. Way to go Adobe.

tim

Tim Atherton writes:

> ... people who think - hey this Epson prints pretty well,
> I could make a few dollars.

Unfortunately, they are right.  Many counterfeits are incredibly
crude--certainly nothing that requires Photoshop or high-quality scans.
They still work because people (the weakest link in the chain) simply do
not check bills to begin with.

However, I don't think there are too many small-scale counterfeiters
like this (IIRC).  The penalties are extremely severe, too.