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Need help on UT2 inkset

2004-02-07 by glemasurier

Okay, I'm taking a tenative first step. I just went out and bought a 
new C84 (if I like the results, then I'll get a 1280) and want to 
purchase some UT2 prefilled carts to start. I need to know which 
UT2 carts to purchase for the C84. I'm looking for intense b&w.
I understand I don't need any curves, right? 
Can  I just play with the sliders for warmer and richer tones?
I've been using Epson HW matte and Premium Luster, can I still 
use these?
Will I be rid of color casting and metamerism forever?
Thanks for your help.
George Le Masurier

RE: [Digital BW] Need help on UT2 inkset

2004-02-08 by Paul Roark

George,

The C84 takes the MIS "Easy B&W" carts.  They are not UT2 carts.

The tone is monotone.  You can only change the tones by putting in a
different mix of neutral or carbon carts.  (The C84 carts are all separate,
like the 2200.)

You'll bet nice prints, but the 890 & 1280 with UT2 is a more flexible
approach for those who are B&W enthusiasts.

See the new MIS B&W page at

http://www.inksupply.com/index.cfm?source=html/qn.html.

This is still under construction and the C84 may not even be ready to go.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 
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-----Original Message-----
From: glemasurier [mailto:george.lemasurier@...] 
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 3:05 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Need help on UT2 inkset

Okay, I'm taking a tenative first step. I just went out and bought a 
new C84 (if I like the results, then I'll get a 1280) and want to 
purchase some UT2 prefilled carts to start. I need to know which 
UT2 carts to purchase for the C84. I'm looking for intense b&w.
I understand I don't need any curves, right? 
Can  I just play with the sliders for warmer and richer tones?
I've been using Epson HW matte and Premium Luster, can I still 
use these?
Will I be rid of color casting and metamerism forever?
Thanks for your help.
George Le Masurier



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Re: Need help on UT2 inkset

2004-02-08 by glemasurier

Paul,
Is the 890 an 8.5X11 printer like the C84? Is it much different 
than the 825 I have now? I didn't see one at Office Depot or 
CompUSA where I picked up the C84. I'm just looking to test the 
waters of a dedicated printer and b&w only inksets, so I'm being 
a bit wary of jumping into the 1280 right off the bat. But I do like to 
experiment with tonal quality. I'm eager for suggestions.
Cheers,
George

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul 
Roark" <paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> George,
> 
> The C84 takes the MIS "Easy B&W" carts.  They are not UT2 
carts.
> 
> The tone is monotone.  You can only change the tones by 
putting in a
> different mix of neutral or carbon carts.  (The C84 carts are all 
separate,
> like the 2200.)
> 
> You'll bet nice prints, but the 890 & 1280 with UT2 is a more 
flexible
> approach for those who are B&W enthusiasts.
> 
> See the new MIS B&W page at
> 
> http://www.inksupply.com/index.cfm?source=html/qn.html.
> 
> This is still under construction and the C84 may not even be 
ready to go.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com 
> _______________________________
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: glemasurier [mailto:george.lemasurier@m...] 
> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 3:05 PM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] Need help on UT2 inkset
> 
> Okay, I'm taking a tenative first step. I just went out and bought 
a 
> new C84 (if I like the results, then I'll get a 1280) and want to 
> purchase some UT2 prefilled carts to start. I need to know 
which 
> UT2 carts to purchase for the C84. I'm looking for intense b&w.
> I understand I don't need any curves, right? 
> Can  I just play with the sliders for warmer and richer tones?
> I've been using Epson HW matte and Premium Luster, can I 
still 
> use these?
> Will I be rid of color casting and metamerism forever?
> Thanks for your help.
> George Le Masurier
> 
> 
> 
> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other 
resources as
> they are often being updated.
> 
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> 
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> unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by 
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> page.
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> them short.
> - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks 
or flames.
> Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed 
from the
> membership without notice.
> - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of 
digital B&W
> printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be 
removed from
> the membership.
> - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group 
rules and
> guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the 
group Owner and
> Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the 
Files section:
> 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/file
s/
> 
> BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE 
DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT
> YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND 
AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND
> "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP 
SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU
> FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, 
CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY
> DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES 
FOR LOSS OF PROFITS,
> GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES 
(EVEN IF THE  "OWNER" AND
> "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP 
HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE
> POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) 
THE USE OR THE INABILITY
> TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) 
UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR
> ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) 
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GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER
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GROUP.
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Re: Need help on UT2 inkset

2004-02-08 by Bob Michaels

The 890 is the same thing as a 1280 but on a smaller chassis that only
prints up to 8.5x11. They are only available at Epson.com refurbished
for $129 including S&H. People thought they needed to print bigger so
the 890 didn't go over in the market and are no longer being
manufactured. For $129 they are a real bargain. I have two Epson
refurbished printers (1280 & 890) and could not tell them from new
when they arrived. 
Bob Michaels

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "glemasurier"
<george.lemasurier@m...> wrote:
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> Paul,
> Is the 890 an 8.5X11 printer like the C84? Is it much different 
> than the 825 I have now? I didn't see one at Office Depot or 
> CompUSA where I picked up the C84. I'm just looking to test the 
> waters of a dedicated printer and b&w only inksets, so I'm being 
> a bit wary of jumping into the 1280 right off the bat. But I do like to 
> experiment with tonal quality. I'm eager for suggestions.
> Cheers,
> George
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul 
> Roark" <paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> > George,
> > 
> > The C84 takes the MIS "Easy B&W" carts.  They are not UT2 
> carts.
> > 
> > The tone is monotone.  You can only change the tones by 
> putting in a
> > different mix of neutral or carbon carts.  (The C84 carts are all 
> separate,
> > like the 2200.)
> > 
> > You'll bet nice prints, but the 890 & 1280 with UT2 is a more 
> flexible
> > approach for those who are B&W enthusiasts.
> > 
> > See the new MIS B&W page at
> > 
> > http://www.inksupply.com/index.cfm?source=html/qn.html.
> > 
> > This is still under construction and the C84 may not even be 
> ready to go.
> > 
> > Paul
> > www.PaulRoark.com 
> > _______________________________
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: glemasurier [mailto:george.lemasurier@m...] 
> > Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 3:05 PM
> > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Digital BW] Need help on UT2 inkset
> > 
> > Okay, I'm taking a tenative first step. I just went out and bought 
> a 
> > new C84 (if I like the results, then I'll get a 1280) and want to 
> > purchase some UT2 prefilled carts to start. I need to know 
> which 
> > UT2 carts to purchase for the C84. I'm looking for intense b&w.
> > I understand I don't need any curves, right? 
> > Can  I just play with the sliders for warmer and richer tones?
> > I've been using Epson HW matte and Premium Luster, can I 
> still 
> > use these?
> > Will I be rid of color casting and metamerism forever?
> > Thanks for your help.
> > George Le Masurier

RE: [Digital BW] Re: Need help on UT2 inkset

2004-02-08 by Paul Roark

Right, the 890 is a bargain letter-size 1280.  I understand it is still sold
new in Europe.

The C82 & 84 are for people who really want simple.  The UT2 in an 890 is
way more flexible and has a better dmax.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Michaels [mailto:bob@...] 
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 7:34 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Need help on UT2 inkset

The 890 is the same thing as a 1280 but on a smaller chassis that only
prints up to 8.5x11. They are only available at Epson.com refurbished
for $129 including S&H. People thought they needed to print bigger so
the 890 didn't go over in the market and are no longer being
manufactured. For $129 they are a real bargain. I have two Epson
refurbished printers (1280 & 890) and could not tell them from new
when they arrived. 
Bob Michaels

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "glemasurier"
<george.lemasurier@m...> wrote:
> Paul,
> Is the 890 an 8.5X11 printer like the C84? Is it much different 
> than the 825 I have now? I didn't see one at Office Depot or 
> CompUSA where I picked up the C84. I'm just looking to test the 
> waters of a dedicated printer and b&w only inksets, so I'm being 
> a bit wary of jumping into the 1280 right off the bat. But I do like to 
> experiment with tonal quality. I'm eager for suggestions.
> Cheers,
> George
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul 
> Roark" <paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> > George,
> > 
> > The C84 takes the MIS "Easy B&W" carts.  They are not UT2 
> carts.
> > 
> > The tone is monotone.  You can only change the tones by 
> putting in a
> > different mix of neutral or carbon carts.  (The C84 carts are all 
> separate,
> > like the 2200.)
> > 
> > You'll bet nice prints, but the 890 & 1280 with UT2 is a more 
> flexible
> > approach for those who are B&W enthusiasts.
> > 
> > See the new MIS B&W page at
> > 
> > http://www.inksupply.com/index.cfm?source=html/qn.html.
> > 
> > This is still under construction and the C84 may not even be 
> ready to go.
> > 
> > Paul
> > www.PaulRoark.com 
> > _______________________________
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: glemasurier [mailto:george.lemasurier@m...] 
> > Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 3:05 PM
> > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Digital BW] Need help on UT2 inkset
> > 
> > Okay, I'm taking a tenative first step. I just went out and bought 
> a 
> > new C84 (if I like the results, then I'll get a 1280) and want to 
> > purchase some UT2 prefilled carts to start. I need to know 
> which 
> > UT2 carts to purchase for the C84. I'm looking for intense b&w.
> > I understand I don't need any curves, right? 
> > Can  I just play with the sliders for warmer and richer tones?
> > I've been using Epson HW matte and Premium Luster, can I 
> still 
> > use these?
> > Will I be rid of color casting and metamerism forever?
> > Thanks for your help.
> > George Le Masurier




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printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from
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BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT
YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND
"MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU
FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY
DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS,
GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE  "OWNER" AND
"MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE
POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY
TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR
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Photoshop and UT2 inkset

2004-02-12 by aitor Peña Inclán

Hello,
I have receive  my first set of UT2 cartdriges. I have read the Roark
instructionsand have a question,
In photoshop, print with preview, which are the setting I must apply?
Best regards
Aitor

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