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My NEC monitor is in its' death throes and I am taking suggestions.  Can the LCD flat screen monitors be calibrated with a Spyder?  Anyone know or have advice.
Thanks in advance.

Barbara Woolner

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--- bfwoolner <bfwoolner@...> wrote:

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My NEC monitor is in its' death throes and I am taking
suggestions.  Can the LCD flat screen monitors be
calibrated with a Spyder?  Anyone know or have advice.
Thanks in advance.

Barbara,
The Spyder can be used with LCD screen.  When you
calibrate you can choose "LCD".  I've found the system
very helpful but not infallible.
Joe D.

LCD still can't compete with a good CRT.  I just bought a NEC 
FP2141sb and love it.  The monitor depth is surely greater, but 
they've done a good job of minimizing it compared to past models.

Regards;
SteveO

Barbara,
Yes, LCD monitors can be profiled quite nicely with a compatible spyder.
I have had good experience with the Eye-One Display and Spectro.
John Toles

Dragonfly Imaging & Printing
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
http://www.dragonflyprinting.com/
http://www.colour-management.com/

> Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2004 17:32:26 -0800
> From: "bfwoolner" <bfwoolner@...>
> Subject: OT dying monitor
>
> My NEC monitor is in its' death throes and I am taking suggestions.  
> Can the LCD flat screen monitors be calibrated with a Spyder?  Anyone 
> know or have advice.
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Barbara Woolner

> From: bfwoolner [mailto:bfwoolner@...]
>
> My NEC monitor is in its' death throes and I am taking
> suggestions.  Can the LCD flat screen monitors be calibrated with
> a Spyder?  Anyone know or have advice.

If you don't have some overriding reason to go with an LCD, I recommend a
CRT, because they generally have a wider gamut, and they're reliably easy to
profile. If you must go with an LCD, be careful what you choose, because
even with very good tools some of them can't be profiled accurately.

--

Ciao,               Paul D. DeRocco
Paul                mailto:pderocco@...

> From: Dragonfly Imaging & Printing
>
> Yes, LCD monitors can be profiled quite nicely with a compatible spyder.
> I have had good experience with the Eye-One Display and Spectro.

Only some LCDs can be accurately profiled by a Spyder, and indeed most
can't. That isn't to say that you'll get an error message telling you that
it was unable to calibrate it. It will simply miscalibrate it. I don't mean
to pick on the Spyder--I expect most devices will have similar troubles.
Although I can say from personal experience that the Eye-One Pro (the
36-band spectro) works better than a Spyder on marginal LCDs.

--

Ciao,               Paul D. DeRocco
Paul                mailto:pderocco@...

I recently bought an Apple 17" LCD studio display after using a LaCie 
19" Blue III for the past few years. My original thought was to 
continue to use the Lacie for photoshop work using a dual monitor 
setup, figuring that the Apple was not good enough for critical work.  
After profiling both monitors with a EyeOne, to my surprise and delight 
I really prefer doing all my work with the Apple LCD display! I am able 
to get Wonderful WYSIWYG with the Apple display, It requires next to no 
warm up time for it to display accurate color, it is much easier  on 
the eyes, much sharper, uses less electricity and no radiation. Unlike 
most other LCD displays, the newer Apple displays do not change color 
or density depending on the viewing angle.

Anyway... after two weeks of use I would never go back to a CRT !

- Jeff

On Monday, February 9, 2004, at 02:55 AM, Paul D. DeRocco wrote:
>
> Only some LCDs can be accurately profiled by a Spyder, and indeed most
> can't. That isn't to say that you'll get an error message telling you 
> that
> it was unable to calibrate it. It will simply miscalibrate it. I don't 
> mean
> to pick on the Spyder--I expect most devices will have similar 
> troubles.
> Although I can say from personal experience that the Eye-One Pro (the
> 36-band spectro) works better than a Spyder on marginal LCDs.
>
> --
>
> Ciao,               Paul D. DeRocco
> Paul                mailto:pderocco@...
>
>
>

> From: Jeff Magidson [mailto:jef.jef@...]
>
> I recently bought an Apple 17" LCD studio display after using a LaCie
> 19" Blue III for the past few years. My original thought was to
> continue to use the Lacie for photoshop work using a dual monitor
> setup, figuring that the Apple was not good enough for critical work.
> After profiling both monitors with a EyeOne, to my surprise and delight
> I really prefer doing all my work with the Apple LCD display! I am able
> to get Wonderful WYSIWYG with the Apple display, It requires next to no
> warm up time for it to display accurate color, it is much easier  on
> the eyes, much sharper, uses less electricity and no radiation. Unlike
> most other LCD displays, the newer Apple displays do not change color
> or density depending on the viewing angle.
>
> Anyway... after two weeks of use I would never go back to a CRT !

I've heard good things about the high-end Apples, too.

I'm curious, though. When you profiled them both, and put them side by side,
did they look the same, color-wise? Could you put up an image (without any
out-of-gamut colors) on both monitors, and have them look identical?

--

Ciao,               Paul D. DeRocco
Paul                mailto:pderocco@...

Can the Apple LCD studio displays be used with PC setups?

Helene
I recently bought an Apple 17" LCD studio display after using a LaCie 
19" Blue III for the past few years. My original thought was to 
continue to use the Lacie for photoshop work using a dual monitor 
setup, figuring that the Apple was not good enough for critical work.  
After profiling both monitors with a EyeOne, to my surprise and delight 
I really prefer doing all my work with the Apple LCD display! I am able 
to get Wonderful WYSIWYG with the Apple display, It requires next to no 
warm up time for it to display accurate color, it is much easier  on 
the eyes, much sharper, uses less electricity and no radiation. Unlike 
most other LCD displays, the newer Apple displays do not change color 
or density depending on the viewing angle.

Anyway... after two weeks of use I would never go back to a CRT !


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> Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 06:31:32 EST
> From: grdglass@...
> Subject: Re: OT dying monitor
>
> Can the Apple LCD studio displays be used with PC setups?
>
>> I recently bought an Apple 17" LCD studio display after using a LaCie
>> 19" Blue III for the past few years. My original thought was to
>> continue to use the Lacie for photoshop work using a dual monitor
>> setup, figuring that the Apple was not good enough for critical work.
>> After profiling both monitors with a EyeOne, to my surprise and 
>> delight
>> I really prefer doing all my work with the Apple LCD display! I am 
>> able
>> to get Wonderful WYSIWYG with the Apple display, It requires next to 
>> no
>> warm up time for it to display accurate color, it is much easier  on
>> the eyes, much sharper, uses less electricity and no radiation. Unlike
>> most other LCD displays, the newer Apple displays do not change color
>> or density depending on the viewing angle.
>>
>> Anyway... after two weeks of use I would never go back to a CRT !
>>


Indeed. The Apple LCDs profile very well.
They have an ADC connector, specific to Apple video cards.
You might be able to get it working with a PC, but you'd need a DVI to 
ADC converter, and a PC with a DVI video card.

John Toles

Dragonfly Imaging & Printing
http://www.dragonflyprinting.com/
http://www.dragonflygallery.ca/