Digital BW, The Print

Just ran out of UT and was wondering.. is the UT2 inkset a 
significant improvement on glossy (PSPP) over the UT set?  Which 
black would I use for glossy with the UT2 set?  Seems I've heard both 
Ebony and Photo can work on glossy with UT2.

Any rub off problems on PSPP with UT2 like I've seen with UT?

Thanks for the help,

  -Daniel Perez

Daniel,

>... is the UT2 inkset a significant improvement on glossy (PSPP) 
>over the UT set? 

Yes, that is one reason I made the inkset.  The UT inks tend to flood the
paper (too much light ink), and the dark cool toner has a bit too much
magenta in it.  (It was made for quads.  The UT2 inkset is the first one I
made specifically for modern printers.)

If you have a 1280 or better, the UT2 is the way to go.

> Which black would I use for glossy with the UT2 set?  Seems I've 
>heard both Ebony and Photo can work on glossy with UT2.

With curves the UT2 inkset allows glossy printing with Eboni installed.  It
just uses the midtone inks.  The dmax is about 5% less than with Photo K.
With the glossy papers the dmax is so impressive that 5% is not enough of an
improvement to mess with.  This is especially true since the 5% PK advantage
comes with a gloss differential that is irritating.

>Any rub off problems on PSPP with UT2 like I've seen with UT?

I assume that is from the Eboni.  If you use the UT2 & Eboni with the
"Eboni-glossy" curves, you'll have 100% glossy-compatible inks on the paper.
There is some gloss differential on most papers.  I recommend a spray to
eliminate this, reduce bronzing, and protect the print.


Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

For UT2 information, curves, and settings see:
http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/

Yes, I'm on a 1280.  So, printing with "Eboni-glossy" curves cuts out 
the black position entirely?  While printing with "Photo-glossy" 
curves kicks in the black position (with Photo K installed)?  

I'm assuming a "Photo-glossy" curve with Photo K ink is 100% glossy-
compatible as well..

Also, is gloss differential the same as bronzing?

Thanks for the help, again.

  -Daniel Perez


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" 
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> Daniel,
> 
> >... is the UT2 inkset a significant improvement on glossy (PSPP) 
> >over the UT set? 
> 
> Yes, that is one reason I made the inkset.  The UT inks tend to 
flood the
> paper (too much light ink), and the dark cool toner has a bit too 
much
> magenta in it.  (It was made for quads.  The UT2 inkset is the 
first one I
> made specifically for modern printers.)
> 
> If you have a 1280 or better, the UT2 is the way to go.
> 
> > Which black would I use for glossy with the UT2 set?  Seems I've 
> >heard both Ebony and Photo can work on glossy with UT2.
> 
> With curves the UT2 inkset allows glossy printing with Eboni 
installed.  It
> just uses the midtone inks.  The dmax is about 5% less than with 
Photo K.
> With the glossy papers the dmax is so impressive that 5% is not 
enough of an
> improvement to mess with.  This is especially true since the 5% PK 
advantage
> comes with a gloss differential that is irritating.
> 
> >Any rub off problems on PSPP with UT2 like I've seen with UT?
> 
> I assume that is from the Eboni.  If you use the UT2 & Eboni with 
the
> "Eboni-glossy" curves, you'll have 100% glossy-compatible inks on 
the paper.
> There is some gloss differential on most papers.  I recommend a 
spray to

> eliminate this, reduce bronzing, and protect the print.
> 
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
> 
> For UT2 information, curves, and settings see:
> http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/

Daniel,

> I'm on a 1280.  So, printing with "Eboni-glossy" curves cuts out 
>the black position entirely?

That is probably the case.  I pull the lightest ink (blue curve,
yellow-position [sepia]) up to the top to turn it off.  As such the dark
gray and dark cold gray inks are all that is left.  Two inks firing gives a
better dmax than one ink by itself, even though the ink limit -- total ink
allowed by the driver - may be the same.

>While printing with "Photo-glossy" curves kicks in the black position 
>(with Photo K installed)?  

Yes.  The standard PK curves I've made for the UT2 inkset use PK in the
usual manner. 

>I'm assuming a "Photo-glossy" curve with Photo K ink is 100% glossy-
>compatible as well..

Yes.

>Also, is gloss differential the same as bronzing?

Tehre are a number of gloss differential "artifacts."  The one I'm referring
to is that with 100% PK the glossy papers often get a mirror like look to
them at the 100% black patch.  I don't think it looks very good.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 

For UT2 information, curves, and settings see:
http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/
______________________________________

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" 
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> Daniel,
> 
> >... is the UT2 inkset a significant improvement on glossy (PSPP) 
> >over the UT set? 
> 
> Yes, that is one reason I made the inkset.  The UT inks tend to 
flood the
> paper (too much light ink), and the dark cool toner has a bit too 
much
> magenta in it.  (It was made for quads.  The UT2 inkset is the 
first one I
> made specifically for modern printers.)
> 
> If you have a 1280 or better, the UT2 is the way to go.
> 
> > Which black would I use for glossy with the UT2 set?  Seems I've 
> >heard both Ebony and Photo can work on glossy with UT2.
> 
> With curves the UT2 inkset allows glossy printing with Eboni 
installed.  It
> just uses the midtone inks.  The dmax is about 5% less than with 
Photo K.
> With the glossy papers the dmax is so impressive that 5% is not 
enough of an
> improvement to mess with.  This is especially true since the 5% PK 
advantage
> comes with a gloss differential that is irritating.
> 
> >Any rub off problems on PSPP with UT2 like I've seen with UT?
> 
> I assume that is from the Eboni.  If you use the UT2 & Eboni with 
the
> "Eboni-glossy" curves, you'll have 100% glossy-compatible inks on 
the paper.
> There is some gloss differential on most papers.  I recommend a 
spray to
> eliminate this, reduce bronzing, and protect the print.
> 
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
> 
> For UT2 information, curves, and settings see:
> http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/



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