Digital BW, The Print

Hi,
has anyone written an article on what *not* to do if you want your MIS experience to be stress-free?

My experience is one of total exasperation and now that I have an HP 7660 (price of inks aside) I am amazed at its reliability. 

But I still want my 1200 for big prints.

I know about not doing repeated cleaning cycles, but apart from that, if anyone has written a post on ten things not to do, I'd love to read it - because for so many people to be getting good use out of MIS inks, I must be doing something wrong.

thanks,
Richard
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   "A liberal is a man too broadminded to take his own side 
   in a quarrel."
   --Robert Frost

Richard,

I have a 1200 and am still using the MIS-VM inks.  While I am 
obviously a sample of one, I have come to the conclusion that clogs 
are not randomly distributed.  My best guess is that there are some 
carts that are problematic in one way or another and that they tend 
to clog.  Another possiblility is weather, although I live in Philly 
and cannot tell you that clogs are more frequent under any specific 
conditions.

I find that there are times when I can go for months with infrequent 
use -- less than once a week -- and all it takes is one or two 
cleaning cycles and all is well.  At other times, I have had clogs 
from hell, but reinstalling the Epson carts, clearing the heads, and 
then putting in a fresh MIS cart seems to do it.  So I suspect that 
clogs are often cart specific and while I have had good luck with 
MIS, their quality control is not perfect.

Again, a very limited sample.  However, I would have to say that even 
with infrequent usage, clogs tend to be the exception rather than the 
run by a large margin.  

To the powers that be:  I am NOT trying to tempt fate!!

Steve

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Richard 
Smallfield <r.smallfield@p...> wrote:
> Hi,
> has anyone written an article on what *not* to do if you want your 
MIS experience to be stress-free?
> 
> My experience is one of total exasperation and now that I have an 
HP 7660 (price of inks aside) I am amazed at its reliability. 
> 
> But I still want my 1200 for big prints.
> 
> I know about not doing repeated cleaning cycles, but apart from 
that, if anyone has written a post on ten things not to do, I'd love 
to read it - because for so many people to be getting good use out of 
MIS inks, I must be doing something wrong.

> 
> thanks,
> Richard
> --
> http://smallfield.vze.com
> http://photos.smallfield.vze.com
> 
>    "A liberal is a man too broadminded to take his own side 
>    in a quarrel."
>    --Robert Frost

printing often helps.  especially with the MIS double black which congeals if left to sit, 
which means to "stir" the bottle now and then.  I have seen several inch long "snakes" of it 
finally be forced back out of the supply tube into the bottle.  

and of course the old reliable, use Epson inks.  Have you seen any significant number of 
posts on clogs with Ep inks?  realizing that you are talking a 1200, I wonder if one could 
use Ultrachrome inks in it somehow?  no idea really

and if you are happy with the HP which I presume is dyes, why not just use the Epson 
dyes?  consider all the posts on here from the techno nuts and penny pinchers (LIKE ME, 
don't take offense) with plugged jets, color casts, etc.

Scott

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Richard Smallfield 
<r.smallfield@p...> wrote:
> Hi,
> has anyone written an article on what *not* to do if you want your MIS experience to be 
stress-free?
> 
> My experience is one of total exasperation and now that I have an HP 7660 (price of inks 
aside) I am amazed at its reliability. 
> 
> But I still want my 1200 for big prints.
> 
> I know about not doing repeated cleaning cycles, but apart from that, if anyone has 
written a post on ten things not to do, I'd love to read it - because for so many people to 
be getting good use out of MIS inks, I must be doing something wrong.

> 
> thanks,
> Richard
> --
> http://smallfield.vze.com
> http://photos.smallfield.vze.com
> 
>    "A liberal is a man too broadminded to take his own side 
>    in a quarrel."
>    --Robert Frost

Well, MIS double black congeals as it sits, which doesn't help.

But I would guess that the plugs are random.  People don't understand that a random 
distribution has big spikes and valleys cuz if it were uniform, it wouldn't be random.

 --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Kobrin" 
<kobrins@w...> wrote:

> Richard,
> 
> I have a 1200 and am still using the MIS-VM inks.  While I am 
> obviously a sample of one, I have come to the conclusion that clogs 
> are not randomly distributed.  My best guess is that there are some 
> carts that are problematic in one way or another and that they tend 
> to clog.  Another possiblility is weather, although I live in Philly 
> and cannot tell you that clogs are more frequent under any specific 
> conditions.
> 
> I find that there are times when I can go for months with infrequent 
> use -- less than once a week -- and all it takes is one or two 
> cleaning cycles and all is well.  At other times, I have had clogs 
>

I understand random Scott, just arguing that the clogs seem to be a 
function of specific carts.  Again, a sample of 1.

Steve

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Graham" 
<gebilwil@n...> wrote:
> Well, MIS double black congeals as it sits, which doesn't help.
> 
> But I would guess that the plugs are random.  People don't 
understand that a random 
> distribution has big spikes and valleys cuz if it were uniform, it 
wouldn't be random.
> 
>  --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen 
Kobrin" 
> <kobrins@w...> wrote:
> > Richard,
> > 
> > I have a 1200 and am still using the MIS-VM inks.  While I am 
> > obviously a sample of one, I have come to the conclusion that 
clogs 
> > are not randomly distributed.  My best guess is that there are 
some 
> > carts that are problematic in one way or another and that they 
tend 
> > to clog.  Another possiblility is weather, although I live in 
Philly 
> > and cannot tell you that clogs are more frequent under any 
specific 
> > conditions.
> > 
> > I find that there are times when I can go for months with 
infrequent 
> > use -- less than once a week -- and all it takes is one or two 
> > cleaning cycles and all is well.  At other times, I have had 
clogs 
> >