Digital BW, The Print

Hello Paul... I received a set of UT7 inks today and tried them out this evening, 
making several prints on various papers:  EEM, HPR, and a few sheets of Hawk 
Mountain that I'd gotten in a sample pack (Osprey Smooth and Osprey Natural).  The 
results are good.  For all of the prints except one I used the slider method.  For the 
last print, on HPR, I downloaded curves from your website.  (It seems that the Sepa, 
Light Sepia and Dark Sepia curves for EEM are missing - broken links.)  I want to 
thank you for the great deal of work you've done on this project.  You've made it 
easy, even for a neophyte like me, to begin to produce good digital B&W prints.

Ed rudolph

Ed,

Thanks for letting me know about the broken links.  I think I've fixed the
problem now.

I'm glad the system is working for you.

I encourage people using either the UT2 or UT7 inksets to try the easy,
no-curves method of printing first.  Frankly, most of my routine prints are
on EEM from grayscale files with no curves and no sliders used.  For a set
of cards I'm doing, I'm even using 720 dpi with High Speed checked.  The
results are just fine.  The system should produce good B&W prints with the
driver in close to its default settings.  (Paper type set to "Matte
Paper-Heavyweight" for UT2 and "Enhanced Matte" for UT7, and a resolution of
at least 720 gives noticeably better quality than the default "Plain paper"
and 360 dpi.)

Let me know if there are any other errors.

I think I'll make a simplified instruction sheet.  The web information
sheets are mostly just my notes that I make while testing.  So, they are not
very concise.

Good luck with the system.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 

For UT2 & UT7 information, curves, and settings see:
http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/

_________________________________

-----Original Message-----
From: edrudolpho [mailto:erudolph@...] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 10:42 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] First UT7 experiences

Hello Paul... I received a set of UT7 inks today and tried them out this
evening, 
making several prints on various papers:  EEM, HPR, and a few sheets of Hawk

Mountain that I'd gotten in a sample pack (Osprey Smooth and Osprey
Natural).  The 
results are good.  For all of the prints except one I used the slider
method.  For the 
last print, on HPR, I downloaded curves from your website.  (It seems that
the Sepa, 
Light Sepia and Dark Sepia curves for EEM are missing - broken links.)  I
want to 
thank you for the great deal of work you've done on this project.  You've
made it 
easy, even for a neophyte like me, to begin to produce good digital B&W
prints.

Ed rudolph



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I'd like to try the new UT7 for 2200 printer. I am confused by the 
different eboni ink.  I already have ARC-T0348-K, is it the same as 
UT7-T0348-UTK? 

Thanks for info.

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" 
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> Ed,
> 
> Thanks for letting me know about the broken links.  I think I've 
fixed the
> problem now.
> 
> I'm glad the system is working for you.
> 
> I encourage people using either the UT2 or UT7 inksets to try the 
easy,
> no-curves method of printing first.  Frankly, most of my routine 
prints are
> on EEM from grayscale files with no curves and no sliders used.  For 
a set
> of cards I'm doing, I'm even using 720 dpi with High Speed checked.  
The
> results are just fine.  The system should produce good B&W prints 
with the
> driver in close to its default settings.  (Paper type set to "Matte
> Paper-Heavyweight" for UT2 and "Enhanced Matte" for UT7, and a 
resolution of
> at least 720 gives noticeably better quality than the default "Plain 
paper"
> and 360 dpi.)
> 
> Let me know if there are any other errors.
> 
> I think I'll make a simplified instruction sheet.  The web 
information
> sheets are mostly just my notes that I make while testing.  So, they 
are not
> very concise.
> 
> Good luck with the system.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com 
> 
> For UT2 & UT7 information, curves, and settings see:
> http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/
> 
> _________________________________
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: edrudolpho [mailto:erudolph@p...] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 10:42 PM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] First UT7 experiences
> 
> Hello Paul... I received a set of UT7 inks today and tried them out 
this
> evening, 
> making several prints on various papers:  EEM, HPR, and a few sheets 
of Hawk
> 
> Mountain that I'd gotten in a sample pack (Osprey Smooth and Osprey
> Natural).  The 
> results are good.  For all of the prints except one I used the 
slider
> method.  For the 
> last print, on HPR, I downloaded curves from your website.  (It 
seems that
> the Sepa, 
> Light Sepia and Dark Sepia curves for EEM are missing - broken 
links.)  I
> want to 
> thank you for the great deal of work you've done on this project.  
You've
> made it 
> easy, even for a neophyte like me, to begin to produce good digital 
B&W
> prints.
> 
> Ed rudolph
> 
> 
> 
> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other 
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There is only one Eboni ink, as far as I know.  However, I'm not familiar
with all of the MIS inks and serial numbers, including the one you noted.
So, check with MIS.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 

For UT2 & UT7 information, curves, and settings see:
http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/

__________

-----Original Message-----
From: not_ai [mailto:not_ai@...] 
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 8:32 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] First UT7 experiences

I'd like to try the new UT7 for 2200 printer. I am confused by the 
different eboni ink.  I already have ARC-T0348-K, is it the same as 
UT7-T0348-UTK? 

Thanks for info.

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" 
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> Ed,
> 
> Thanks for letting me know about the broken links.  I think I've 
fixed the
> problem now.
> 
> I'm glad the system is working for you.
> 
> I encourage people using either the UT2 or UT7 inksets to try the 
easy,
> no-curves method of printing first.  Frankly, most of my routine 
prints are
> on EEM from grayscale files with no curves and no sliders used.  For 
a set
> of cards I'm doing, I'm even using 720 dpi with High Speed checked.  
The
> results are just fine.  The system should produce good B&W prints 
with the
> driver in close to its default settings.  (Paper type set to "Matte
> Paper-Heavyweight" for UT2 and "Enhanced Matte" for UT7, and a 
resolution of
> at least 720 gives noticeably better quality than the default "Plain 
paper"
> and 360 dpi.)
> 
> Let me know if there are any other errors.
> 
> I think I'll make a simplified instruction sheet.  The web 
information
> sheets are mostly just my notes that I make while testing.  So, they 
are not
> very concise.
> 
> Good luck with the system.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com 
> 
> For UT2 & UT7 information, curves, and settings see:
> http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/
> 
> _________________________________
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: edrudolpho [mailto:erudolph@p...] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 10:42 PM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] First UT7 experiences
> 
> Hello Paul... I received a set of UT7 inks today and tried them out 
this
> evening, 
> making several prints on various papers:  EEM, HPR, and a few sheets 
of Hawk
> 
> Mountain that I'd gotten in a sample pack (Osprey Smooth and Osprey
> Natural).  The 
> results are good.  For all of the prints except one I used the 
slider
> method.  For the 
> last print, on HPR, I downloaded curves from your website.  (It 
seems that
> the Sepa, 
> Light Sepia and Dark Sepia curves for EEM are missing - broken 
links.)  I
> want to 
> thank you for the great deal of work you've done on this project.  
You've
> made it 
> easy, even for a neophyte like me, to begin to produce good digital 
B&W
> prints.
> 
> Ed rudolph
> 
> 
> 
> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other 
resources as
> they are often being updated.
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EXEMPLARY
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> GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE  "OWNER" 
AND
> "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED 
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> POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE 
INABILITY
> TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED 
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> ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR 
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> THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY 
OTHER
> MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP.
>  
> Yahoo! Groups Links




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Ug!  At the start of my prints is a dark smudge ... starts at the beginning 
of the pepr, and continues for about 1".  It doesn't go the full width ... 
looks like ink on a roller or some such.  But what could be causing 
it?  It's only on one portion of the paper, and doesn't last more than a inch.

  A r t h u r    F i n k      P h o t o g r a p h y
  .................................................
  Ten New Island Avenue     · 207.766.5722
  Peaks Island, Maine 04108 · arthur@...

Surprises!

I turned off the printer for a while, and did some 4x6 prints with no 
problem at all.

Then I printed an 11x17.  I has dark drippy lines at the left side of the 
print (as it came out of the printer), that are 1/2 - 1" long.  They are 
spaced about 1/4" apart.  Some are thick (almost 1/8") and others are much 
thinner.  It looks like ink was dripping.

Any idea what this can be ... and how to cure it?

By the way, all prints were on Hannemuhle 308, with MIS UT-FS ink.

Arthur Fink

  A r t h u r    F i n k      P h o t o g r a p h y
  .................................................
  Ten New Island Avenue     · 207.766.5722
  Peaks Island, Maine 04108 · arthur@...

One more bit of explanation, that really surprizes me.

The 11x17 print starts out okay, for about the first 5 inches.  Then the 
drips start.

So, the print, viewed from the top of the printer, looks like this

  --------------
| ====		|
| ---		|	
| ====		|
| ====		|
| ***		|
| ****		|
| ----		|
| ====		|
| ===		|
|		|
|		|
|		|
  --------------

Before, I was printing with about 7/12 margin on the left.  The drips 
stayed to the right of that.

Now, with about a 1 1/8" margin the drips go further left than the margin.

  A r t h u r    F i n k      P h o t o g r a p h y
  .................................................
  Ten New Island Avenue     · 207.766.5722
  Peaks Island, Maine 04108 · arthur@...

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Arthur Fink 
<arthur@a...> wrote:
> ... I has dark drippy lines at the left side of the 
> print (as it came out of the printer), that are 1/2 - 1" long.  
> They are spaced about 1/4" apart.  Some are thick (almost 1/8") and 
> others are much thinner.  It looks like ink was dripping.

Are you using a CFS/CIS? If so your bottles may be too high. If you 
just recently replaced a cartridge, its vent system maybe faulty.

--nick

At 06:52 PM 5/13/2004, nick_h_nugent wrote:
>--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Arthur Fink
><arthur@a...> wrote:
> > ... I has dark drippy lines at the left side of the
> > print (as it came out of the printer), that are 1/2 - 1" long.
> > They are spaced about 1/4" apart.  Some are thick (almost 1/8") and
> > others are much thinner.  It looks like ink was dripping.
>
>Are you using a CFS/CIS? If so your bottles may be too high. If you
>just recently replaced a cartridge, its vent system maybe faulty.

Yes ... just replaced the color cartridge -- MIS UT-FS.

What would/could be wrong with the vent.  And why do I only see the problem 
on 11" wide prints, and only after they have bee printing for a while?



  A r t h u r    F i n k      P h o t o g r a p h y
  .................................................
  Ten New Island Avenue     · 207.766.5722
  Peaks Island, Maine 04108 · arthur@...

I've got a 3000 which is the same mechanically as the 1520, which I've just
repaired.

One thing comes to mind and that is that the head might have an ink build-up
on the head making it collect drops while the prints are going through, then
dropping them at random.

You might want to try a small amount of windex on te cleaning pads to see if
it helps.

Glenn
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arthur Fink" <arthur@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>;
<DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: Smudge at start of prints -- 1520


> At 06:52 PM 5/13/2004, nick_h_nugent wrote:
> >--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Arthur Fink
> ><arthur@a...> wrote:
> > > ... I has dark drippy lines at the left side of the
> > > print (as it came out of the printer), that are 1/2 - 1" long.
> > > They are spaced about 1/4" apart.  Some are thick (almost 1/8") and
> > > others are much thinner.  It looks like ink was dripping.
> >
> >Are you using a CFS/CIS? If so your bottles may be too high. If you
> >just recently replaced a cartridge, its vent system maybe faulty.
>
> Yes ... just replaced the color cartridge -- MIS UT-FS.
>
> What would/could be wrong with the vent.  And why do I only see the
problem
> on 11" wide prints, and only after they have bee printing for a while?
>
>
>
>   A r t h u r    F i n k      P h o t o g r a p h y
>   .................................................
>   Ten New Island Avenue     \ufffd 207.766.5722
>   Peaks Island, Maine 04108 \ufffd arthur@...
>
>
>
>
>
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Hi Paul,

Let me start by thanking you for your work on the UT7 inkset for 
2200. I am coaxing excellent color prints from the 2200. I am on a 
quest to produce excellent b&w from the 2200.  Getting the ut7 ink 
carts to give me a good nozzle check took several cleanings, a 
restart of the printer and a few pages of printing.
I have tried applying the curves you posted for eem in photoshop 7.
The carbon curve is the one I am most interested in. The curve 
knocks the image way out when I load it under the curve adjustment.
The image is rendered barely visible on the monitor, and when it 
prints it looks washed out. I am applying it to an image I have 
converted to monochrome using the channel mixer. It is in 16 bit rgb 
and has been since it left the cameras raw file.
 Just wondering what I am doing wrong since you are getting good 
results with it. When I print from ps7 with my windows computer I go 
to print with preview, Print space profile is "Printer Color 
Management". I then checked ICM in the color management in the epson 
driver. 

Thank you again for your diligence and assistance!

Charlie

> When I print from ps7 with my windows computer I go 
> to print with preview, Print space profile is "Printer Color 
> Management". I then checked ICM in the color management in the epson 
> driver. 
> Charlie

In "Print with Preview" in Print Space set to "Same as Source"

In Epson driver turn off color management - "No Color Adjustment"

Thank you John,

It gives me the carbon look!  I am so used to having to use profiles 
or printer color management. I see now that Pauls curves *are* the 
paper profile.  I have profiled my monitor and I have custom 
profiles from cathys profiles. I tried not applying the curves from 
Paul, and using the custom profile for the paper in the same way I 
do with color prints and it gives me what I see on the screen. Lots 
of experimenting to do!  I am loving the idea of getting beautiful 
b&w prints which look the same without regard to the illumination 
light color temperature!!  This is great...



Charlie

> Thank you John,
> Charlie

You are welcome! I had the same problem as you did  and it took a while to figure it out - 
so I knew right away what the problem was with your setup.

John

I have been printing little crops 3x3 inch to get it tuned a bit. I 
just printed a couple 8x10's. It is a amazing how a paper profile I 
had made with epson inks gives me a neutral print with the ut7 
inkset. It has a very very slight warmth but looks like a dark room 
print. I think I need two 2200's after all.