Digital BW, The Print

I saw the posts on here earlier mentioning the Lyson/Bowhaus team up 
re a new set of lyson black and white inks - also this report on the 
PDIA website
http://www.pdia.org/news/05_10_04news.asp

Does anyone have any further info on this? Nothing on the Lyson 
website so am wondering how new these inks are and whether we can 
hope for/expect reduced metamrerism compared with the quad blacks & 
small gamuts

Hi Everyone,

I just joined the group, so I'm not sure if this has been discussed.  Lyson
has introduced the Daylight Darkroom System for the Epson 2200/7600/9600
printers for making b&w prints.  You can download an information sheet at
www.adventurecamphoto.com/lysondd.htm.  Lyson is supposed to send me a
system to test, so I'm anxious to see the results.


Michael J. Pach
Owner
AdventureCam Photo
Proof Line Ink Jet Paper & Media
719-260-6637
email@...
www.adventurecamphoto.com

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Perhaps I have missed a previous post on this subject but would 
anyone care to share their experience with the dye based inks, paper 
and software that make up the new Lyson Daylight Darkroom product for 
printing B&W on Epson printers?  Any thoughts appreciated.

James Alvis

James,

There is some information about the Lyson Daylight Darkroom on my web site
at www.adventurecamphoto.com/lysondd.htm including a spec sheet.  I am still
waiting for Lyson to send a unit to me for testing.  When I have a chance to
try it out, I will post that information.


Michael J. Pach
Owner
AdventureCam Photo
Proof Line Ink Jet Paper & Media
719-260-6637
www.adventurecamphoto.com

Perhaps I have missed a previous post on this subject but would

anyone care to share their experience with the dye based inks, paper

and software that make up the new Lyson Daylight Darkroom product for

printing B&W on Epson printers? Any thoughts appreciated.

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Do a search for Lyson Daylight Darkroom content on this site and on the yahoo epson 
large format list and you will find a few observations from people who have tested them. I 
believe the consensus is that that the inks work well on glossy media and look a lot like 
gelatin silver output, but the metamerism makes them all but unusable for most of us. 
They warm up significantly under tungsten illumination. 

john


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "jamesalvis" <alvishsd@e...> 
wrote:

> 
> Perhaps I have missed a previous post on this subject but would 
> anyone care to share their experience with the dye based inks, paper 
> and software that make up the new Lyson Daylight Darkroom product for 
> printing B&W on Epson printers?  Any thoughts appreciated.
> 
> James Alvis

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "jamesalvis" 
<alvishsd@e...> wrote:
> 
> Perhaps I have missed a previous post on this subject but would 
> anyone care to share their experience with the dye based inks, 
paper 
> and software that make up the new Lyson Daylight Darkroom product 
for 
> printing B&W on Epson printers?  Any thoughts appreciated.
> 
> James Alvis

James
I don't think you missed anything yet. Lyson Daylight Darkroom as far 
as I can see is a new product that has only just been launched. It 
seems that Lyson have teamed up with Bowhaus who make the RIP, to 
produce a complete one stop B&W solution. However I cannot see 
anything really new here. The Bowhaus RIP IJC/OPM has been available 
for a while. Its a RIP for B&W only and covers a number of popular 
Epson printers, using any ink you care to choose. It will be 
interesting to see how much Lyson charge for the software, compared 
to buying it direct from Bowhaus. I have just bought IJC/OPM and 
really like the product. I like the user interface of IJC, and OPM is 
very simple to use. I'm just starting to experiment with building my 
own curves to control the inks.  IJC seems more of an intergrated 
solution than QTR for this, and for me is easier to use. However I 
wish Bowhaus would produce a decent tutorial on curve design.

Just my thoughts.

Peter

> here is the web site for the large format
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EpsonWideFormat/?yguid=207278972
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Do a search for Lyson Daylight Darkroom content on this site and on the yahoo
> epson 
> large format list and you will find a few observations from people who have
> tested them. I 
> believe the consensus is that that the inks work well on glossy media and look
> a lot like 
> gelatin silver output, but the metamerism makes them all but unusable for most
> of us. 
> They warm up significantly under tungsten illumination.
> 
> john
> 
> 



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After reading about the Lyson product I went to their website
(http://www.daylightdarkroom.com/) and registered. Once you do that
they will send you a sample print using their product and you can
download the digital file to print on your system.

The sample print arrived a few days ago. I was surprised at how dark
the sample print was and how little detail there was in the shadow
areas. The Black-Only print I made on my 1280 from their file with
Eboni Ink looked much nicer to me.

Score another one for BO printing. :)

--Jim