Digital BW, The Print

I have my C84 with EZ inkset.  I made some practice prints on Heavyweight 
Matte Paper and they look quite good right from the start. But I am lacking 
a frame of reference.  Unlike most of you who have BW prints from other 
printers, inksets, and methods to compare with, I don't have any such 
collection.

So I'm fishing for a link to a top-notch image that I can download and 
print with the C84.  An image file that one of you C84 users has printed, 
and which you feel will show off the capabilities of this printer and 
inks.  I have a package of Epson's PremierArt Matte Scrapbook paper, and 
I'd probably break it open for this "test", rather than use the inexpensive 
Heavyweight Matte I've been starting with.

I am not trying to steal anyone's handiwork, so if it has a copyright or 
something right across it, that's fine.  I simply want to print a known 
good image.  Anyone have a link to a photo that they've printed well from 
the C84?  Off-list is fine if need be.

Thanks,

Don M

Hi Don,
Let us know how it turns out, I just bought a C84 and am awaiting my 
inks.

Thanks

Jules

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Don M <don@m...> 
wrote:
> I have my C84 with EZ inkset.  I made some practice prints on 
Heavyweight 
> Matte Paper and they look quite good right from the start. But I am 
lacking 
> a frame of reference.  Unlike most of you who have BW prints from 
other 
> printers, inksets, and methods to compare with, I don't have any 
such 
> collection.
> 
> So I'm fishing for a link to a top-notch image that I can download 
and 
> print with the C84.  An image file that one of you C84 users has 
printed, 
> and which you feel will show off the capabilities of this printer 
and 
> inks.  I have a package of Epson's PremierArt Matte Scrapbook 
paper, and 
> I'd probably break it open for this "test", rather than use the 
inexpensive 
> Heavyweight Matte I've been starting with.
> 
> I am not trying to steal anyone's handiwork, so if it has a 
copyright or 
> something right across it, that's fine.  I simply want to print a 
known 
> good image.  Anyone have a link to a photo that they've printed 
well from 

> the C84?  Off-list is fine if need be.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Don M

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Don M <don@m...>
wrote:
> I have my C84 with EZ inkset.  I made some practice prints on
Heavyweight 
> Matte Paper and they look quite good right from the start. But I am
lacking 
> a frame of reference.  Unlike most of you who have BW prints from
other 
> printers, inksets, and methods to compare with, I don't have any
such 
> collection.
> 
> So I'm fishing for a link to a top-notch image that I can download
and 
> print with the C84.  An image file that one of you C84 users has
printed, 
> and which you feel will show off the capabilities of this printer
and 
> inks.  I have a package of Epson's PremierArt Matte Scrapbook paper,
and 
> I'd probably break it open for this "test", rather than use the
inexpensive 
> Heavyweight Matte I've been starting with.
> 
> I am not trying to steal anyone's handiwork, so if it has a
copyright or 
> something right across it, that's fine.  I simply want to print a
known 
> good image.  Anyone have a link to a photo that they've printed well
from 
> the C84?  Off-list is fine if need be.
> 

Daniel Staver posted a link a little while ago (below) to an image
with a step wedge on the top and some nice photos on the bottom which
I think shows what the printer can do quite nicely.  I 

http://download.petraflux.com/technical.zip 

Also, here's a link to some of Dorthea Lange's "Migrant Mother"
images:

http://www.loc.gov/rr/print/list/128_migm.html

Derry

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "lulalake_1999" 
<lulalake_1999@y...> wrote:
> Hi Don,
> Let us know how it turns out, I just bought a C84 and am awaiting 
my 
> inks.

Jules,

I think you will like it.  I am a complete beginner at this, and so 
far it is great.

Thanks to those who provided links to images.  I have printed a few 
crops from this one:
http://download.petraflux.com/technical.zip
It showed what I wanted to see, that the printer and EZ inks are very 
capable when using a great photo.  I cropped the photo of the old man 
in the hat and printed test prints at 4x5, which is ~200 dpi if I 
recall correctly.

I am still using the Heavyweight Matte paper for comparison sake, and 
because I'm darn cheap.  Using neutral inks.  I started with the 
Plain Paper setting as advocated by Paul Roark for some better papers 
to enhance dmax.  With HWMatte paper, the Plain Paper setting is not 
working as well as the actual HWM setting.  The Plain Paper setting 
is producing horizontal banding or line marks in black areas, such as 
the area to the viewer's right of the man's head.  The HWM setting 
eliminated it.  (Nozzle checks were good.)

I don't have any way of measuring dmax, but the HWM setting appears 
just as good as Plain Paper setting to me in that respect.  Since 
Paul "wrote the book" about this combo, I'm assuming my results are 
unique to the low price HWM paper which Paul probably does not bother 
with.

I am using these settings:  Color Controls, gamma 2.2, and everything 
else set to Off or zero.  Too easy.

I probably don't know enough to be picky, but I think the results are 
great.  The bad news is that the great test photographs show me how 
inadequate my digicam image prints are.  Well, a person has to have 
*something* to work on.  ;)

Many thanks to Paul Roark and others whose comments and reviews 
encouraged me to get this printer.  

-Don

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "dmcluckie"
<don@m...> wrote:
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "lulalake_1999" 
> <lulalake_1999@y...> wrote:
> > Hi Don,
> > Let us know how it turns out, I just bought a C84 and am awaiting 
> my 
> > inks.
> 
> Jules,
> 
> I think you will like it.  I am a complete beginner at this, and so 
> far it is great.
> 
> Thanks to those who provided links to images.  I have printed a few 
> crops from this one:
> http://download.petraflux.com/technical.zip
> It showed what I wanted to see, that the printer and EZ inks are very 
> capable when using a great photo.  I cropped the photo of the old man 
> in the hat and printed test prints at 4x5, which is ~200 dpi if I 
> recall correctly.
> 
> I am still using the Heavyweight Matte paper for comparison sake, and 
> because I'm darn cheap.  Using neutral inks.  I started with the 
> Plain Paper setting as advocated by Paul Roark for some better papers 
> to enhance dmax.  With HWMatte paper, the Plain Paper setting is not 
> working as well as the actual HWM setting.  The Plain Paper setting 
> is producing horizontal banding or line marks in black areas, such as 
> the area to the viewer's right of the man's head.  The HWM setting 
> eliminated it.  (Nozzle checks were good.)
> 
> I don't have any way of measuring dmax, but the HWM setting appears 
> just as good as Plain Paper setting to me in that respect.  Since 
> Paul "wrote the book" about this combo, I'm assuming my results are 
> unique to the low price HWM paper which Paul probably does not bother 
> with.
> 
> I am using these settings:  Color Controls, gamma 2.2, and everything 
> else set to Off or zero.  Too easy.
> 

I get banding on the heavyweight matte paper with the plain paper
setting if I don't set the contrast and brightness according to Paul
Roark's settings listed on the MIS website.

Derry

Thanks so much Don

Jules

- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "dmcluckie" 
<don@m...> wrote:
> --- In 
DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "lulalake_1999" 
> <lulalake_1999@y...> wrote:
> > Hi Don,
> > Let us know how it turns out, I just bought a C84 and am awaiting 
> my 
> > inks.
> 
> Jules,
> 
> I think you will like it.  I am a complete beginner at this, and so 
> far it is great.
> 
> Thanks to those who provided links to images.  I have printed a few 
> crops from this one:
> http://download.petraflux.com/technical.zip
> It showed what I wanted to see, that the printer and EZ inks are 
very 
> capable when using a great photo.  I cropped the photo of the old 
man 
> in the hat and printed test prints at 4x5, which is ~200 dpi if I 
> recall correctly.
> 
> I am still using the Heavyweight Matte paper for comparison sake, 
and 
> because I'm darn cheap.  Using neutral inks.  I started with the 
> Plain Paper setting as advocated by Paul Roark for some better 
papers 
> to enhance dmax.  With HWMatte paper, the Plain Paper setting is 
not 
> working as well as the actual HWM setting.  The Plain Paper setting 
> is producing horizontal banding or line marks in black areas, such 
as 
> the area to the viewer's right of the man's head.  The HWM setting 
> eliminated it.  (Nozzle checks were good.)
> 
> I don't have any way of measuring dmax, but the HWM setting appears 
> just as good as Plain Paper setting to me in that respect.  Since 
> Paul "wrote the book" about this combo, I'm assuming my results are 
> unique to the low price HWM paper which Paul probably does not 
bother 
> with.
> 
> I am using these settings:  Color Controls, gamma 2.2, and 
everything 
> else set to Off or zero.  Too easy.
> 
> I probably don't know enough to be picky, but I think the results 
are 

> great.  The bad news is that the great test photographs show me how 
> inadequate my digicam image prints are.  Well, a person has to have 
> *something* to work on.  ;)
> 
> Many thanks to Paul Roark and others whose comments and reviews 
> encouraged me to get this printer.  
> 
> -Don