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Tiff or Photoshop?

Tiff or Photoshop?

2004-09-01 by yaakovsinclair

In which format should I save my files?
Thanks!

Re: [Digital BW] Tiff or Photoshop?

2004-09-01 by Richard Sintchak

either.
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----- Original Message -----
From: yaakovsinclair <sinclair@...>
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 19:06:29 -0000
Subject: [Digital BW] Tiff or Photoshop?
To: digitalblackandwhitetheprint@yahoogroups.com

In which format should I save my files?
Thanks!

Re: [Digital BW] Tiff or Photoshop?

2004-09-01 by Ross Borgida

If you work on layers, use .PSD..if you do not use layers you can save as either...i do not use layers (i flatten layers - to keep file size down) and I save as TIFF..good luck!

Richard Sintchak <rich815@...> wrote:either.
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Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 19:06:29 -0000
Subject: [Digital BW] Tiff or Photoshop?
To: digitalblackandwhitetheprint@yahoogroups.com

In which format should I save my files?
Thanks!


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Re: [Digital BW] Tiff or Photoshop?

2004-09-01 by Mark Savoia

You can also save with layers in TIFF and use LZW compression for 
lossless.
Mark
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On Sep 1, 2004, at 4:33 PM, Ross Borgida wrote:

>
> If you work on layers, use .PSD..if you do not use layers you can save 
> as either...i do not use layers (i flatten layers - to keep file size 
> down) and I save as TIFF..good luck!
>
> Richard Sintchak <rich815@...> wrote:either.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: yaakovsinclair <sinclair@actcom.co.il>
> Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 19:06:29 -0000
> Subject: [Digital BW] Tiff or Photoshop?
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>
> In which format should I save my files?
> Thanks!
>
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RE: [Digital BW] Tiff or Photoshop?

2004-09-01 by Paul D. DeRocco

> From: yaakovsinclair <sinclair@...>
>
> In which format should I save my files?

If you're saving for reloading into Photoshop later, as when you're part way
through a major edit, then use .psd. If you're saving something that's
finished, especially if you intend to send it to someone else who will open
it in something other than Photoshop, TIFF is a reasonable interchange
format, because it offers some compression options. But also remember that
not all compression options are supported by all programs. I've yet to see
anything that doesn't support LZW.

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Ciao,               Paul D. DeRocco
Paul                mailto:pderocco@...

Re: Tiff or Photoshop?

2004-09-01 by Bob Michaels

I personally always save files unflattened as PSD. I tend to sometimes
come back to what I thought was finished and give it another tweak. HD
space is dirt cheap, use it. 

Of course anytime I send a file to someone, it's a TIF unless I know
they are just going to view it on the monitor then it's a JPG. 

Bob Michaels

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "yaakovsinclair"
<sinclair@a...> wrote:
> In which format should I save my files?
> Thanks!

Re: [Digital BW] Tiff or Photoshop?

2004-09-01 by Richard Sintchak

On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 13:33:39 -0700 (PDT), Ross Borgida <borgida@...> wrote:
> 
> If you work on layers, use .PSD..if you do not use layers you can save as either...i do not use layers (i flatten layers - to keep file size down) and I save as TIFF..good luck!
> 

Ross, you can save layers in TIFF.

Richard

Re: [Digital BW] Tiff or Photoshop?

2004-09-01 by Richard Sintchak

If I remember correctly NeatImage cannot work on a TIFF file saved
with LZW.  And I also think QTR requires a non-compressed TIFF file as
well, no?

NI might have added that capability to a newer version, it certain
does not work on the version I have.

Richard
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From: Paul D. DeRocco <pderocco@...>
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 15:10:32 -0700
Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Tiff or Photoshop?
To: digitalblackandwhitetheprint@yahoogroups.com

> From: yaakovsinclair <sinclair@...>
>
> In which format should I save my files?

If you're saving for reloading into Photoshop later, as when you're part way
through a major edit, then use .psd. If you're saving something that's
finished, especially if you intend to send it to someone else who will open
it in something other than Photoshop, TIFF is a reasonable interchange
format, because it offers some compression options. But also remember that
not all compression options are supported by all programs. I've yet to see
anything that doesn't support LZW.

--

Ciao,               Paul D. DeRocco
Paul                mailto:pderocco@...

RE: [Digital BW] Tiff or Photoshop?

2004-09-01 by Paul D. DeRocco

> From: Richard Sintchak [mailto:rich815@...]
> 
> If I remember correctly NeatImage cannot work on a TIFF file saved
> with LZW.  And I also think QTR requires a non-compressed TIFF file as
> well, no?
> 
> NI might have added that capability to a newer version, it certain
> does not work on the version I have.

Dunno. I always run it as a PS plugin.

-- 

Ciao,               Paul D. DeRocco
Paul                mailto:pderocco@...

Re: [Digital BW] Tiff or Photoshop?

2004-09-02 by Tom Baker

Apparently LZW decompression has to be paid for by software vendors.  I heard, anyway.
 
Tom Baker

Richard Sintchak <rich815@...> wrote:
If I remember correctly NeatImage cannot work on a TIFF file saved
with LZW. And I also think QTR requires a non-compressed TIFF file as
well, no?

NI might have added that capability to a newer version, it certain
does not work on the version I have.

Richard
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From: Paul D. DeRocco 

Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 15:10:32 -0700
Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Tiff or Photoshop?
To: digitalblackandwhitetheprint@yahoogroups.com

> From: yaakovsinclair 
>
> In which format should I save my files?

If you're saving for reloading into Photoshop later, as when you're part way
through a major edit, then use .psd. If you're saving something that's
finished, especially if you intend to send it to someone else who will open
it in something other than Photoshop, TIFF is a reasonable interchange
format, because it offers some compression options. But also remember that
not all compression options are supported by all programs. I've yet to see
anything that doesn't support LZW.

--

Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco
Paul mailto:pderocco@...m



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RE: [Digital BW] Tiff or Photoshop?

2004-09-02 by Paul D. DeRocco

> From: Tom Baker [mailto:tbaker1328@...]
>
> Apparently LZW decompression has to be paid for by software
> vendors.  I heard, anyway.

That was true until last June, when the last worldwide patents on it finally
expired.

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