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2004-09-28 by Andre
Epson has announced in Japan for now, a new 1440x5760 dpi, 8 inks, A3 size printer with a 1.5 pl. dot size. Could this be base on the R800 printer inkset ? And if so, how are b&w prints coming out with the R800 ? http://www.i-love-epson.co.jp/products/printer/inkjet/pxg5000/pxg50001.htm Andre Moreau
2004-09-28 by Nelson Ricciardi
Andre The R800 has only one black cartdrige, right? There is no LIGHT BLACK. That might be a problem.
> -----Original Message----- > From: Andre [mailto:am1000@...] > Sent: terça-feira, 28 de setembro de 2004 12:10 > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] New A3 Epson printer > > > Epson has announced in Japan for now, a new 1440x5760 dpi, 8 > inks, A3 size printer with a 1.5 pl. dot size. > > Could this be base on the R800 printer inkset ? And if so, > how are b&w prints coming out with the R800 ? > > http://www.i-love-epson.co.jp/products/printer/inkjet/pxg5000/ > pxg50001.htm > > Andre Moreau > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > --------------------~--> > Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. > Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! > http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/ucIolB/TM > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ------~-> > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or > you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership > preferences by visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier > messages to keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks > or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be > removed from the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of > digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic > posts may be removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group > rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and > decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See Group > Topic, Rules and Guidelines in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL > BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE > THAT THE OWNER AND MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, > INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY > DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF > PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN > IF THE OWNER AND MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH > DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE > THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED > ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) > STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, > THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO > THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >
2004-09-28 by Andre
Using BabelFish translation, I can see that this printer has both a photo black and a matt black ink and 6 color cartridges. Andre Moreau --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson Ricciardi" <nelson_@r...> wrote:
> Andre > > The R800 has only one black cartdrige, right? There is no LIGHT BLACK. > > That might be a problem. > > > > > http://www.i-love-epson.co.jp/products/printer/inkjet/pxg5000/ > > pxg50001.htm > > > > Andre Moreau > > > >
2004-09-28 by Bob Frost
Nelson, Epson state that the R800 and Picturemate don't need a light black because the dot size is so small - 1.5pl Bob Frost. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nelson Ricciardi" <nelson_@...> Andre The R800 has only one black cartdrige, right? There is no LIGHT BLACK. That might be a problem.
2004-09-28 by Nelson Ricciardi
Andre The light black is very important if you wnat to get a good back and white with no metamerism.
> -----Original Message----- > From: Andre [mailto:am1000@...] > Sent: terça-feira, 28 de setembro de 2004 13:53 > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: New A3 Epson printer > > > > Using BabelFish translation, I can see that this printer has > both a photo black and a matt black ink and 6 color cartridges. > > Andre Moreau > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson > Ricciardi" <nelson_@r...> wrote: > > Andre > > > > The R800 has only one black cartdrige, right? There is no > LIGHT BLACK. > > > > That might be a problem. > > > > > > > > > http://www.i-love-epson.co.jp/products/printer/inkjet/pxg5000/ > > > pxg50001.htm > > > > > > Andre Moreau > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > --------------------~--> > $9.95 domain names from Yahoo!. Register anything. > http://us.click.yahoo.com/J8kdrA/y20IAA/yQLSAA/ucIolB/TM > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ------~-> > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or > you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership > preferences by visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier > messages to keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks > or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be > removed from the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of > digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic > posts may be removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group > rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and > decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See Group > Topic, Rules and Guidelines in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL > BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE > THAT THE OWNER AND MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, > INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY > DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF > PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN > IF THE OWNER AND MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH > DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE > THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED > ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) > STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, > THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO > THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
2004-09-28 by Martin Sluka
At 14:20 -0300 28.9.2004, Nelson Ricciardi wrote: ******************************************* >Andre > >The light black is very important if you wnat to get a good back and white >with no metamerism. It looks as it uses the same head as R800, the same inkset as R800 and the roll as 4000. CMYK(Photo and Black)RB + glossy enhancer. Grey is important, but not if 1.5 pl drop. Metamerism is solved with R800, check it. Martin --
2004-09-28 by Jay Gladwell
Martin-- A friend of mine from England sent me severals b&w print dones on the R800. It shows that metamerism is till a problem, even for the R800. The only print that it wasn't showing up on was the print on matt paper. Jay
>From: Martin Sluka <martin.sluka@...> >Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com >To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com >Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Re: New A3 Epson printer >Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 20:16:08 +0200 > >At 14:20 -0300 28.9.2004, Nelson Ricciardi wrote: >******************************************* > > >Andre > > > >The light black is very important if you wnat to get a good back and >white > >with no metamerism. > >It looks as it uses the same head as R800, the same inkset as R800 >and the roll as 4000. CMYK(Photo and Black)RB + glossy enhancer. > >Grey is important, but not if 1.5 pl drop. Metamerism is solved with >R800, check it. > >Martin >--
2004-09-28 by Martin Sluka
At 18:39 +0000 28.9.2004, Jay Gladwell wrote: ******************************************* >A friend of mine from England sent me severals b&w print dones on the R800. >It shows that metamerism is till a problem, even for the R800. The only >print that it wasn't showing up on was the print on matt paper. > >Jay But not so bad as usuall. When I printed from RGB source with greyscale option on the result was neutral, compared to output from ESP 2100 with Imageprint. Martin --
2004-09-28 by Arthur Fink
At 02:39 PM 9/28/2004, Jay Gladwell wrote: >A friend of mine from England sent me severals b&w print dones on the R800. >It shows that metamerism is till a problem, even for the R800. The only >print that it wasn't showing up on was the print on matt paper. Perfect, I saw, because who wants black on white on non-matte paper. But ... I have an R800, and the quality of black and white is not what I get from my Epson 3000 or Epson 1520 using the Piezography driver and MIS FS-UT ink. A r t h u r F i n k P h o t o g r a p h y ------------------------------------------------ Ten New Island Avenue 207.766.5722 Peaks Island, Maine 04108 arthur@...
2004-09-28 by James Irelan
> > > Perfect, I saw, because who wants black on white on non-matte paper. > I do, actually, on Darkroom Gloss. Closest thing I've seen to Oriental Seagull. James
2004-09-28 by Nelson Ricciardi
Bob, Thanks for your reply. How is the quality of "black only" B&W prints with the R800? Is it good? Thanks
> -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Frost [mailto:bob@...] > Sent: terça-feira, 28 de setembro de 2004 14:10 > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] New A3 Epson printer > > > Nelson, > > Epson state that the R800 and Picturemate don't need a light > black because > the dot size is so small - 1.5pl > > Bob Frost. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nelson Ricciardi" <nelson_@...> > > > Andre > > The R800 has only one black cartdrige, right? There is no LIGHT BLACK. > > That might be a problem. > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > --------------------~--> > $9.95 domain names from Yahoo!. Register anything. > http://us.click.yahoo.com/J8kdrA/y20IAA/yQLSAA/ucIolB/TM > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ------~-> > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or > you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership > preferences by visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier > messages to keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks > or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be > removed from the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of > digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic > posts may be removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group > rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and > decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See Group > Topic, Rules and Guidelines in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL > BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE > THAT THE OWNER AND MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, > INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY > DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF > PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN > IF THE OWNER AND MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH > DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE > THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED > ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) > STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, > THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO > THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >
2004-09-28 by Carl Schofield
James, Have you found an inkset that will produce B&W prints on Darkroom Gloss that do not exhibit metamerism? I tried the Lyson Quad Blacks (neutral) with Darkroom Gloss in my 1270 and the dmax is exceptional (2.6+), but the prints shift from a perfect neutral in daylight to a garish red tone under incandescent lighting. The new "Daylight Darkroom" inkset supposedly reduces metamerism, but I haven't seen any prints yet. From what I've heard, the Daylight Darkroom inkset consists of the Lyson Quad Blacks (neutral) plus the C, M, and Y inks from the Small Gamut inkset for toning, but I don't know how this inkset is supposed to reduce metamerism. Carl
On Tuesday, September 28, 2004, at 04:01 PM, James Irelan wrote: >> >> >> Perfect, I saw, because who wants black on white on non-matte paper. >> > > I do, actually, on Darkroom Gloss. Closest thing I've seen to Oriental > Seagull. > > James >
2004-09-28 by James Irelan
On Sep 28, 2004, at 1:15 PM, Carl Schofield wrote: > James, > > Have you found an inkset that will produce B&W prints on Darkroom > Gloss > that do not exhibit metamerism? Well, I can't help you with comparing inksets, because right now I'm invested in one- Fotonics. I'm slowly trying to come up with an IP-like setup of Colorburst to print black and white with these inks on the Darkroom Gloss. I'm doing it under the guidance of someone who's the brains behind the operation. So far I've had good news and bad news: certain aspects of the prints are very promising, but I did see a dramatic difference in color from room lights at night to indirect daylight. What looked pretty neutral in room lights looked green in daylight. However, that was with an earlier iteration. Subsequent ones have looked about 98% there, with only a faint hint of green in daylight. Then there was a coincident other problem, which I need to now investigate- it could have been a fluke, but since it happened I haven't had the opportunity to check it out more. So the profiling is still not ready for prime time, but, as I say, shows promise. It seems reasonable that a dedicated gray set would be better than the Fotonics for black and white, but I don't have a printer set up for gray only, so this is what I'm working with now. James
2004-09-28 by Jay Gladwell
Actually, I've come to prefer b&w on matt over glossy. Jay
>From: James Irelan <james@...> >Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com >To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: New A3 Epson printer >Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 13:01:53 -0700 > > > > > > > Perfect, I saw, because who wants black on white on non-matte paper. > > > >I do, actually, on Darkroom Gloss. Closest thing I've seen to Oriental >Seagull. > >James >
2004-09-28 by Carl Schofield
Thanks James. Sounds like the Fotonics with Darkroom Gloss could be an ideal solution for color and B&W if you can minimize the metamerism. Carl
On Tuesday, September 28, 2004, at 04:39 PM, James Irelan wrote: > > On Sep 28, 2004, at 1:15 PM, Carl Schofield wrote: > >> James, >> >> Have you found an inkset that will produce B&W prints on Darkroom >> Gloss >> that do not exhibit metamerism? > > Well, I can't help you with comparing inksets, because right now I'm > invested in one- Fotonics. I'm slowly trying to come up with an > IP-like setup of Colorburst to print black and white with these inks on > the Darkroom Gloss. I'm doing it under the guidance of someone who's > the brains behind the operation. So far I've had good news and bad > news: certain aspects of the prints are very promising, but I did see > a dramatic difference in color from room lights at night to indirect > daylight. What looked pretty neutral in room lights looked green in > daylight. However, that was with an earlier iteration. Subsequent > ones have looked about 98% there, with only a faint hint of green in > daylight. Then there was a coincident other problem, which I need to > now investigate- it could have been a fluke, but since it happened I > haven't had the opportunity to check it out more. So the profiling is > still not ready for prime time, but, as I say, shows promise. It seems > reasonable that a dedicated gray set would be better than the Fotonics > for black and white, but I don't have a printer set up for gray only, > so this is what I'm working with now. > > James
2004-09-29 by James Irelan
On Sep 28, 2004, at 3:54 PM, Jay Gladwell wrote: > Actually, I've come to prefer b&w on matt over glossy. > Previously, I always preferred matte, too. But I'm not talking about "glossy", which looks like plastic. Talking about Lyson's Darkroom Gloss, which looks like fiber gloss darkroom paper. James
2004-09-29 by James Irelan
On Sep 28, 2004, at 4:18 PM, Carl Schofield wrote: > Thanks James. Sounds like the Fotonics with Darkroom Gloss could be an > ideal solution for color and B&W if you can minimize the metamerism. > For color it's a clear winner, and I'm hoping with some further experimentation and tweaking that it'll rival IP for b&w from a color set, only with a better paper. James
2004-09-29 by Peter Nelson
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Martin Sluka <martin.sluka@p...> wrote:> Grey is important, but not if 1.5 pl drop. Metamerism is solved with > R800, check it. Could you elaborate on this? How does the R800 solve metamerism? Does it use dye or pigment -based inks?
2004-09-29 by Peter Nelson
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Jay Gladwell" <jaygladwell@h...> wrote: > Actually, I've come to prefer b&w on matt over glossy. Jay, I hope the last few days have answered your earlier question about the choice of a BW printing method. Just in that short time we've had someone here report that Lyson exhibits metamerism, Fotonic (by Lyson) has metamerism, and Piezography or Cone or United Airlines or somebody is in Chapter 11. Or not. Meanwhile people here are getting all excited about a new printer that may, or may not, have a gray or light black ink, and may, or may not, need one because it has such a small droplet size that it may, or may not, exhibit metamerism. If you're still looking for "simple" it may, or may not, be starting to occur to you that you've come to the wrong place to find it.
2004-09-29 by Jay Gladwell
Peter-- Thanks for your input. I don't think I've come to the wrong place--quite the contrary! I've read a great deal of valuable information here, along with some that wasn't so valuable. I've pretty much decided to go with the Piezography iQuad system. They recently sent some print samples that were down right stunning! Now, I'm trying to decide on a printer. I wish they had everything up and running for the Epson 2200. As far as the Epson A3 is concerned, I haven't been able to find anything about it online. Jay
>From: "Peter Nelson" <pnweb@...> >Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com >To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [Digital BW] Re: New A3 Epson printer >Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 17:17:59 -0000 > >--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Jay Gladwell" ><jaygladwell@h...> wrote: > > Actually, I've come to prefer b&w on matt over glossy. > >Jay, I hope the last few days have answered your earlier question >about the choice of a BW printing method. > >Just in that short time we've had someone here report that Lyson >exhibits metamerism, Fotonic (by Lyson) has metamerism, and >Piezography or Cone or United Airlines or somebody is in Chapter 11. >Or not. Meanwhile people here are getting all excited about a new >printer that may, or may not, have a gray or light black ink, and >may, or may not, need one because it has such a small droplet size >that it may, or may not, exhibit metamerism. If you're still looking >for "simple" it may, or may not, be starting to occur to you that >you've come to the wrong place to find it. > > >
2004-09-29 by bhhc
Peter Nelson wrote; >Jay, I hope the last few days have answered your earlier question >about the choice of a BW printing method. >Just in that short time we've had someone here report that Lyson >exhibits metamerism, Fotonic (by Lyson) has metamerism, and >Piezography or Cone or United Airlines or somebody is in Chapter 11. >Or not. Meanwhile people here are getting all excited about a new >printer that may, or may not, have a gray or light black ink, and >may, or may not, need one because it has such a small droplet size >that it may, or may not, exhibit metamerism. If you're still looking >for "simple" it may, or may not, be starting to occur to you that >you've come to the wrong place to find it. Thank you Peter . . . this had me laughing out loud. What with the snips at "what is silver doing here?", to disgust at my contempt for "fall on your knees and praise digital" . . . this was a relaxing gut-buster. I have more free time now, so I am getting back into doing my own printing. Even in today's hi-speed? digi-world, you either shoot, or you are a darkroom tech . . . you can't really do both, at least not shoot commercially, which I am doing a lot less of now. SO . . . I picked up two small Epsons the other day to try out various techniques in printing, BO and FI inksets from MIS for a start. The reasoning being with the smaller printers is that if I screw things up OR don't like what I see, it is not a major expense. It is funny, in silver printing when you wanted to change colour or tone, it was a few dollars for different toner, paper, and/or developer . . . not the potentially hundreds that it costs with inkjet . . . not to mention some possibly scrapped hardware . . . I always thought progress was just that, progress . . . guess I was wrong ;- )) At any rate, the reason for the great stress relieving laugh was exactly as you say. All I have read in the last few hundred posts has been "are they? or are they not really bankrupt? . . . only their hairdresser knows for sure", "this is clogged, that is clogged, now they are both clogged . . . now the entire thing is dead!", to "this curve, that curve, neither works, so lets curve this way, that way . . . dancing til dawn with those voluptuous curves" . . . to Andre crying out in the night,"please don't let silver die!" I have learned a lot, and will keep on learning from all of you . . . but I thought I was going to give up being a mechanic years ago when I could finally afford to buy a real car . . . guess I was wrong . . . again. enjoy your day! Paul Aparycki [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2004-09-29 by bhhc
Wait a week until Photokina is over, the journalists sober up, come back home, and file their stories. Paul Aparycki As far as the Epson A3 is concerned, I haven't been able to find anything about it online. Jay [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2004-09-29 by John Vitollo
> As far as the Epson A3 is concerned, I haven't been able to find anything > about it online. > Jay If you can get past the Mamiya ZD camera check out the 3rd or so item down the page about the new Epson printer: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/new/index.shtml
2004-09-29 by Jay Gladwell
John-- Thanks for pointing that out. Rather than waiting another six months, I'll go with the 1280. Jay
>From: "John Vitollo" <jvlist@...> >Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com >To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [Digital BW] Re: New A3 Epson printer >Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 21:43:27 -0000 > > > As far as the Epson A3 is concerned, I haven't been able to find >anything > > about it online. > > Jay > >If you can get past the Mamiya ZD camera check out the 3rd or so item down >the page >about the new Epson printer: > >http://www.luminous-landscape.com/new/index.shtml > >
2004-10-08 by Sam McCandless
Here <http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/printers/px-g5000.shtml> is a little more information in English about the Japan version of this printer. I changed the subject line in case other versions of it are released elsewhere. -- Sam
>At 14:20 -0300 28.9.2004, Nelson Ricciardi wrote: >******************************************* > >>Andre >> >>The light black is very important if you wnat to get a good back and white >>with no metamerism. > >It looks as it uses the same head as R800, the same inkset as R800 >and the roll as 4000. CMYK(Photo and Black)RB + glossy enhancer. > >Grey is important, but not if 1.5 pl drop. Metamerism is solved with >R800, check it. > >Martin >--