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Linux feasibility

2004-10-12 by Peter Nelson

I recently set up SuSE Linux on a PC at home, mainly to experiment 
with server-side programming on Apache.   All my other PC's are 
Windows.   But it did make me wonder whether Linux would be feasible 
for any photo-related work.     I know GIMP isn't in the same league 
as Photoshop but what's the stoy on these other topics:

1.  Nikon RAW (.nef) files.   Can I upoad RAW files from my D100 via 
USB?   What if I put them on a CF card first?     What can I use to 
convert them to 16-bit TIFF'?

2.  Printer drivers - what is the quality and stability of printer 
drivers - especially for the 2200?   Is there a complete set of 
functionality for profiles, head-cleaning, ink-supply monitoring, etc?

3.  Scanner drivers - espcially Nikon Coolscan V - quality, 
reliability?

Re: [Digital BW] Linux feasibility

2004-10-12 by Roger L Sopher

Peter Nelson wrote:

>
> I recently set up SuSE Linux on a PC at home, mainly to experiment
> with server-side programming on Apache.   All my other PC's are
> Windows.   But it did make me wonder whether Linux would be feasible
> for any photo-related work.     I know GIMP isn't in the same league
> as Photoshop but what's the stoy on these other topics:
>
> 1.  Nikon RAW (.nef) files.   Can I upoad RAW files from my D100 via
> USB?   What if I put them on a CF card first?     What can I use to
> convert them to 16-bit TIFF'?
>
> 2.  Printer drivers - what is the quality and stability of printer
> drivers - especially for the 2200?   Is there a complete set of
> functionality for profiles, head-cleaning, ink-supply monitoring, etc?
>
> 3.  Scanner drivers - espcially Nikon Coolscan V - quality,
> reliability?
>
>
Hi Peter,

There is a commercial version of wine called CrossOver that will allow 
you to run Photoshop on a Linux distro. I had PS 7.01 running with no 
serious glitches using  CrossOver including a couple of commercial plug 
ins such as photoKit. I didn't try CS since I now run that on a mac.

VueScan has a Linux version that last I looked was a freebee. It should 
run your Nikon scanner. I piddled with it for my 4000ED and it isn't 
exactly straight forward but it can be made to run. Looks and works 
about like the windows version.

The gimp print drivers for the 2200 aren't bad at all for color. I 
dropped Linux as a print engine because I just couldn't get QTR to drive 
that printer (2200) successfully. No problem with an 860 though so go 
figure. It ended up being easier to pick up an old mac on ebay and use 
that for QTR.

I routinely moved images back and forth from PC to linuxbox using one of 
those USB key chain units. Worked with no problem and was fast. Of 
course you can put the linuxbox on your network and swap files that way 
as well. I never tried loading directly from a CF card or for that 
matter from the camera but I would bet it would work.

Roger

-- 
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Re: [Digital BW] Linux feasibility

2004-10-12 by Peter Nelson

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Roger L Sopher 
<rlsopher@c...> wrote:

> I routinely moved images back and forth from PC to linuxbox using 
one of 
> those USB key chain units. Worked with no problem and was fast.

What about converting Nikon RAW files?

Re: [Digital BW] Linux feasibility

2004-10-12 by Roger L Sopher

Peter Nelson wrote:

>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Roger L Sopher
> <rlsopher@c...> wrote:
>
> > I routinely moved images back and forth from PC to linuxbox using
> one of
> > those USB key chain units. Worked with no problem and was fast.
>
> What about converting Nikon RAW files?
>
>
>
Can't speak to that -- For digital I use a Pentax 1stD and Minota 7i. I 
would think that if you had the raw plugin for PS  the conversion would 
go without problem. I didn't have the raw plug in for PS 701 and did the 
conversions using the vendor supplied utilities on my PC and transferred 
the files as tifs. Now that I think about it I never tried running the 
conversion utility using crossover - dumb...  If my memory is accurate I 
think you can get a trial version of crossover that will run a week or 
so to see if it will do the job for you.

Roger

Re: [Digital BW] Linux feasibility

2004-10-13 by Manuel Toledo Quinones

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Roger L Sopher
<rlsopher@c...> wrote:
> Peter Nelson wrote:
> 
> >
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Roger L Sopher
> > <rlsopher@c...> wrote:
> >
> > > I routinely moved images back and forth from PC to linuxbox using
> > one of
> > > those USB key chain units. Worked with no problem and was fast.
> >
> > What about converting Nikon RAW files?
> >
> >
> >
> Can't speak to that -- For digital I use a Pentax 1stD and Minota 7i. I 
> would think that if you had the raw plugin for PS  the conversion would 
> go without problem. I didn't have the raw plug in for PS 701 and did
the 
> conversions using the vendor supplied utilities on my PC and
transferred 
> the files as tifs. Now that I think about it I never tried running the 
> conversion utility using crossover - dumb...  If my memory is
accurate I 
> think you can get a trial version of crossover that will run a week or 
> so to see if it will do the job for you.
> 
> Roger

After a few hours of work, I got QTR to work on SUSE Linux with a
1280. I have made a few prints and they look very good. I have Picture
Windows working with wine, and Photoshop 7 working with Crossover. 

There is a program called gphoto2 (http://www.gphoto.org) that may be
useful for getting images from your camera. I use a CF card reader,
and Canon´s utility (which runs well under wine) to convert RAW files.
There is also a program called dcraw
(http://www.cybercom.net/~dcoffin/dcraw/) that can do the conversion
from RAW to 8-bit and 16-bit/channel pnm format files, but the 16
bits/ch are very dark so I prefer to use Canon´s utility. Other
utilities can take the png file and produce jpg and tiff files.  

Setting up everything does take some time, but I like Linux stability
and the availability of many quality programs for free. 

For 18 months I used windows with the UT and UT2 inksets and Paul´s
curves. In fact, my perceived lack of a feasible b/w workflow under
Linux was the reason I was using mostly windows. Now that I have QTR
and the other programs working under Linux, I will use it for a while
to see how it goes. Initially, however, it seems to me that all the
components nedded to produce good b/w prints under linux are available.

I hope this helps,

-- Manuel

Re: [Digital BW] Linux feasibility

2004-10-13 by Roger L Sopher

Hi Manuel,

I agree with you completely. I used linux (Redhat 9 at the time) and 
QTR for the better part of a year when I was using an Epson 860 with 
the MIS-VM ink-set. Worked like a charm. I went to a 2200 and couldn't 
solve a couple of problems in the filters and print queue. I've tried 
Fedora, SUSe and Mandrake and ran into the same problem. That pushed me 
into getting an old Mac from ebay and it has been clear sailing since.

Wine and CrossOver have gone a long way to making it a more than viable 
substitute for windows but if one has to get into the guts of the 
system it isn't an easy chore for the uninitiated. Close but not quite 
there.

Roger

On Oct 12, 2004, at 6:31 PM, Manuel Toledo Quinones wrote:

>
>  --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Roger L Sopher
>  <rlsopher@c...> wrote:
>  > Peter Nelson wrote:
>  >
>  > >
>  > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Roger L 
> Sopher
>  > > <rlsopher@c...> wrote:
>  > >
>  > > > I routinely moved images back and forth from PC to linuxbox 
> using
>  > > one of
>  > > > those USB key chain units. Worked with no problem and was fast.
>  > >
>  > > What about converting Nikon RAW files?
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > Can't speak to that -- For digital I use a Pentax 1stD and Minota 
> 7i. I
>  > would think that if you had the raw plugin for PS� the conversion 
> would
>  > go without problem. I didn't have the raw plug in for PS 701 and did
>  the
>  > conversions using the vendor supplied utilities on my PC and
>  transferred
>  > the files as tifs. Now that I think about it I never tried running 
> the
>  > conversion utility using crossover - dumb...� If my memory is
>  accurate I
>  > think you can get a trial version of crossover that will run a week 
> or
>  > so to see if it will do the job for you.
>  >
>  > Roger
>
>  After a few hours of work, I got QTR to work on SUSE Linux with a
>  1280. I have made a few prints and they look very good. I have Picture
>  Windows working with wine, and Photoshop 7 working with Crossover.
>
>  There is a program called gphoto2 (http://www.gphoto.org) that may be
>  useful for getting images from your camera. I use a CF card reader,
>  and Canon�s utility (which runs well under wine) to convert RAW files.
>  There is also a program called dcraw
>  (http://www.cybercom.net/~dcoffin/dcraw/) that can do the conversion
>  from RAW to 8-bit and 16-bit/channel pnm format files, but the 16
>  bits/ch are very dark so I prefer to use Canon�s utility. Other
>  utilities can take the png file and produce jpg and tiff files.�
>
>  Setting up everything does take some time, but I like Linux stability
>  and the availability of many quality programs for free.
>
>  For 18 months I used windows with the UT and UT2 inksets and Paul�s
>  curves. In fact, my perceived lack of a feasible b/w workflow under
>  Linux was the reason I was using mostly windows. Now that I have QTR
>  and the other programs working under Linux, I will use it for a while
>  to see how it goes. Initially, however, it seems to me that all the
>  components nedded to produce good b/w prints under linux are 
> available.
>
>  I hope this helps,
>
>  -- Manuel���
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Digital BW] Linux feasibility

2004-10-13 by Peter Nelson

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Roger L Sopher 
> I agree with you completely. I used linux (Redhat 9 at the time) 
and 
> QTR for the better part of a year when I was using an Epson 860 
with 
> the MIS-VM ink-set. Worked like a charm. I went to a 2200 and 
couldn't 
> solve a couple of problems in the filters and print queue. I've 
tried 
> Fedora, SUSe and Mandrake and ran into the same problem. That 
pushed me 
> into getting an old Mac from ebay and it has been clear sailing 
since.
> 
> Wine and CrossOver have gone a long way to making it a more than 
viable 
> substitute for windows but if one has to get into the guts of the 
> system it isn't an easy chore for the uninitiated. Close but not 
quite 
> there.

So I'm still a little unclear what the answer to my question was:

Is there a good way to download and convert my Nikon RAW files onto 
my SuSE Linux box?   I really don't want to try to get Wine up and 
running because I've been told that it's still pretty flakey; I'm 
really not interested in trying to poke around and edit a lot of 
config files; and anyway what's the point of even using Linux if I'm 
going to be using it to simulate Windows?   

Linux runs a great web server, which was my original motive for 
getting it and starting to learn a little about it.  But if it's not-
ready-for-prime-time WRT to reading .NEF's then let's just say so, so 
I won't waste any time on it.

Re: [Digital BW] Linux feasibility

2004-10-13 by Brentley Beerline

There is apparentely a version of bibble for linux on the horizon.  I
read it on another list.  I would check www.bibblelabs.com for more
information.

regards
Brentley


--- Peter Nelson <pnweb@...> wrote:

> 
, which was my original motive for 
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> getting it and starting to learn a little about it.  But if it's
> not-
> ready-for-prime-time WRT to reading .NEF's then let's just say so,
> so 
> I won't waste any time on it.

Re: [Digital BW] Linux feasibility

2004-10-13 by Roger L Sopher

The problem is, in my opinion, is that there is still a sizable hole in 
the graphics capability of Linux. For now that hole can be filled by 
using windows programs and crossover or wine. CrossOver is a snap to 
use, wine is not as well tuned.

Re your question about converting Nikon raws I can't help there since I 
don't use Nikon products other than a 4000ED scanner at the moment AND 
I no longer use Linux for graphics. Your original question was, I 
think, is it possible to use Linux for .... The short answer is yes but 
not without some experimentation.

Downloading raw images shouldn't be a problem since the camera or card 
reader would be recognized as a peripheral storage device when plugged 
into a usb port.

Roger






On Oct 13, 2004, at 10:54 AM, Peter Nelson wrote:

>
>  --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Roger L Sopher
>  > I agree with you completely. I used linux (Redhat 9 at the time)
>  and
>  > QTR for the better part of a year when I was using an Epson 860
>  with
>  > the MIS-VM ink-set. Worked like a charm. I went to a 2200 and
>  couldn't
>  > solve a couple of problems in the filters and print queue. I've
>  tried
>  > Fedora, SUSe and Mandrake and ran into the same problem. That
>  pushed me
>  > into getting an old Mac from ebay and it has been clear sailing
>  since.
>  >
>  > Wine and CrossOver have gone a long way to making it a more than
>  viable
>  > substitute for windows but if one has to get into the guts of the
>  > system it isn't an easy chore for the uninitiated. Close but not
>  quite
>  > there.
>
>  So I'm still a little unclear what the answer to my question was:
>
>  Is there a good way to download and convert my Nikon RAW files onto
>  my SuSE Linux box?�� I really don't want to try to get Wine up and
>  running because I've been told that it's still pretty flakey; I'm
>  really not interested in trying to poke around and edit a lot of
>  config files; and anyway what's the point of even using Linux if I'm
>  going to be using it to simulate Windows?��
>
>  Linux runs a great web server, which was my original motive for
>  getting it and starting to learn a little about it.� But if it's not-
>  ready-for-prime-time WRT to reading .NEF's then let's just say so, so
>  I won't waste any time on it.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: [Digital BW] Linux feasibility

2004-10-13 by Dré de Man

Dear Peter and DigtalBWers,

 

I experimented with tools other than the Nikon software and Photoshop to
convert NEFs, but nothing was really satisfactory.

 

The cheapest OS today when using graphics is simply Windows.

 

If you are ready to buy Photoshop PS though (the best raw-conversion you can
think of), I would send a mail to Adobe. Since they already have a Photoshop
version for Mac OSX, it should not be that difficult for them to port it to
Linux/Unix, since OSX is just another Unix flavour.

 

Maybe the market share is still to small for them, but it is worth asking.

 

Best greetings,

 

Dré

 

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Van: Peter Nelson [mailto:pnweb@studio-nelson.com] 
Verzonden: dinsdag 12 oktober 2004 20:02
Aan: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Onderwerp: [Digital BW] Linux feasibility

 


I recently set up SuSE Linux on a PC at home, mainly to experiment 
with server-side programming on Apache.   All my other PC's are 
Windows.   But it did make me wonder whether Linux would be feasible 
for any photo-related work.     I know GIMP isn't in the same league 
as Photoshop but what's the stoy on these other topics:

1.  Nikon RAW (.nef) files.   Can I upoad RAW files from my D100 via 
USB?   What if I put them on a CF card first?     What can I use to 
convert them to 16-bit TIFF'?

2.  Printer drivers - what is the quality and stability of printer 
drivers - especially for the 2200?   Is there a complete set of 
functionality for profiles, head-cleaning, ink-supply monitoring, etc?

3.  Scanner drivers - espcially Nikon Coolscan V - quality, 
reliability?






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Re: [Digital BW] Linux feasibility

2004-10-14 by Graham Hughes

On Wed, 2004-10-13 at 16:54 +0000, Peter Nelson wrote:
> Is there a good way to download and convert my Nikon RAW files onto 
> my SuSE Linux box?   I really don't want to try to get Wine up and 
> running because I've been told that it's still pretty flakey; I'm 
> really not interested in trying to poke around and edit a lot of 
> config files; and anyway what's the point of even using Linux if I'm 
> going to be using it to simulate Windows?   

gphoto can download it easily.  For conversion, there's dcraw; that
utility's author claims it was the basis for the Photoshop plugin.  As a
command line tool it is fine, and there exist plugins for Gimp that
allow you to use it more or less transparently.  The problem that I ran
into is I prefer to edit my RAW images in 16 bit mode (to preserve the
dynamic range of the sensor) and Gimp is simply not up to that task; it
does fine with 8 bit and in fact I used that for a while.  Film Gimp (or
whatever they're calling it these days) has 16 bit support but I found
the interface different and less useful.

All of these are likely to have improved in the year or so since I last
tried, note.

Graham


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Re: [Digital BW] Linux feasibility

2004-10-14 by Matt Haber

I've managed to get QTR linux printing on a 1280 with UT2, but 
don't seem to be able to make the curves matter.

One thing i tried for kicks was to see if i could run QTR-win and 
QTR-GUI under Linux with WINE (setting emulation as WinXP). It 
opened up just fine, but claimed all of my printers (both printers i'd 
set up for QTR as local printers, and one i set up as a networked 
printer) were not networked. I assume that's a fault of how windows 
programs assume printers vs Wine/Linux, but i left feeling like i was 
very close yet very far away.

-matt
--
Matt Haber
dance, portrait and fashion photography
http://www.matthaber.com

Re: [Digital BW] Linux feasibility

2004-10-14 by Manuel Toledo Quinones

There is a script call ¨qpr¨ in the files section of this group. I use
it to print using curves. I modified it to ask for the desired margin
instead of the ppi, which I had to calculated by hand in order to get
the margins I wanted. I can email you the modified script if you want. 

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Haber"
<matt@m...> wrote:
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> I've managed to get QTR linux printing on a 1280 with UT2, but 
> don't seem to be able to make the curves matter.
> 
> One thing i tried for kicks was to see if i could run QTR-win and 
> QTR-GUI under Linux with WINE (setting emulation as WinXP). It 
> opened up just fine, but claimed all of my printers (both printers i'd 
> set up for QTR as local printers, and one i set up as a networked 
> printer) were not networked. I assume that's a fault of how windows 
> programs assume printers vs Wine/Linux, but i left feeling like i was 
> very close yet very far away.
> 
> -matt
> --
> Matt Haber
> dance, portrait and fashion photography
> http://www.matthaber.com

RE: [Digital BW] Linux feasibility

2004-10-14 by Stephen Billard

Nope, it is because QTRgui looks for this information in the Windows
Registry. 

-Stephen
 www.sbillard.org/Stephen
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Haber [mailto:matt@...] 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 10:04 PM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Linux feasibility
> 
> 
> One thing i tried for kicks was to see if i could run QTR-win and 
> QTR-GUI under Linux with WINE (setting emulation as WinXP). It 
> opened up just fine, but claimed all of my printers (both 
> printers i'd 
> set up for QTR as local printers, and one i set up as a networked 
> printer) were not networked. I assume that's a fault of how windows 
> programs assume printers vs Wine/Linux, but i left feeling like i was 
> very close yet very far away.
> 
>

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