Digital BW, The Print

In a message dated 11/01/2001 7:07:06 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
steadmanuhlich@... writes:


> "when it works, it works...beautifully."  

My! Aren't we in an especially good mood tonight! A real pleasure Steadman!
Nice to get a little income from ink efforts to elevate the mood.
My 3000 now sits for long periods without use and I don't get any clogs either
My color 3000 sits for months unused with MIS  color pigs and fires right up 
too.
Steve Meyers
Quad/hex schizophrenic! Piezo, MIS, Piezo, MIS, Piezo, MIS.......







[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Yesterday, I was cheering myself too! First framed prints of mine in a local
framing shop window (3 using Piezo BW, and 3 using Piezo Color... on William
Turner 310 and Photorag 310 respectively). A small step forward, but an
important one for me :)

So for me too... Happy!

Nij



> -----Original Message-----
> From: sdmey4@... [mailto:sdmey4@...]
>
> In a message dated 11/01/2001 7:07:06 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> steadmanuhlich@... writes:
>
>
> > "when it works, it works...beautifully."
>
> My! Aren't we in an especially good mood tonight! A real pleasure
> Steadman!
> Nice to get a little income from ink efforts to elevate the mood.
<snip>

Congrats Nij. Will I be able to see them when I come across?

Julian
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nij" <nigel@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 5:03 AM
Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Surprise Surprise....It works beautifully!


> Yesterday, I was cheering myself too! First framed prints of mine in a
local
> framing shop window (3 using Piezo BW, and 3 using Piezo Color... on
William
> Turner 310 and Photorag 310 respectively). A small step forward, but an
> important one for me :)
>
> So for me too... Happy!
>
> Nij
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sdmey4@... [mailto:sdmey4@...]
> >
> > In a message dated 11/01/2001 7:07:06 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> > steadmanuhlich@... writes:
> >
> >
> > > "when it works, it works...beautifully."
> >
> > My! Aren't we in an especially good mood tonight! A real pleasure
> > Steadman!
> > Nice to get a little income from ink efforts to elevate the mood.
> <snip>
>
>
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Steve,

I've got the MIS color inks in a 3000, too, but I have experienced 
minor problems on 3-4 occasions. If I've printed several sheets and 
then let the printer sit idle for a few hours (without turning it 
off) and then try printing again, the magenta doesn't start printing 
until a couple of inches into the print. It begins gradually and then 
within a couple more inches is working fine. Since the problem is 
self-correcting, I don't yet know what a nozzle check looks like when 
the problem is occuring.

I'm wondering if you (or other list members) have experienced this.

Tom Keesling

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., sdmey4@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 11/01/2001 7:07:06 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
> steadmanuhlich@k... writes:
> 
> 
> > "when it works, it works...beautifully."  
> 
> My! Aren't we in an especially good mood tonight! A real pleasure 
Steadman!
> Nice to get a little income from ink efforts to elevate the mood.
> My 3000 now sits for long periods without use and I don't get any 
clogs either
> My color 3000 sits for months unused with MIS  color pigs and fires 
right up 

> too.
> Steve Meyers
> Quad/hex schizophrenic! Piezo, MIS, Piezo, MIS, Piezo, MIS.......

Yup - they're the ones on the web-site (looking a bit better than on the
web, I hope ;)

Nij

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Julian Thomas [mailto:julianthomas@...]
> Sent: 02 November 2001 09:07
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Surprise Surprise....It works beautifully!
>
>
> Congrats Nij. Will I be able to see them when I come across?
>
> Julian
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nij" <nigel@...>
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 5:03 AM
> Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Surprise Surprise....It works beautifully!
>
>
> > Yesterday, I was cheering myself too! First framed prints of mine in a
> local
> > framing shop window (3 using Piezo BW, and 3 using Piezo Color... on
> William
> > Turner 310 and Photorag 310 respectively). A small step forward, but an
> > important one for me :)
> >
> > So for me too... Happy!
> >
> > Nij
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: sdmey4@... [mailto:sdmey4@...]
> > >
> > > In a message dated 11/01/2001 7:07:06 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> > > steadmanuhlich@... writes:
> > >
> > >
> > > > "when it works, it works...beautifully."
> > >
> > > My! Aren't we in an especially good mood tonight! A real pleasure
> > > Steadman!
> > > Nice to get a little income from ink efforts to elevate the mood.
> > <snip>
> >
> >
> >
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How did you choose between PR and WT? Do you see a colour difference? I see
WR as warmer than PR.

Julian
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nij" <nigel@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 4:55 PM
Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Surprise Surprise....It works beautifully!


> Yup - they're the ones on the web-site (looking a bit better than on the
> web, I hope ;)
>
> Nij
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Julian Thomas [mailto:julianthomas@...]
> > Sent: 02 November 2001 09:07
> > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Surprise Surprise....It works beautifully!
> >
> >
> > Congrats Nij. Will I be able to see them when I come across?
> >
> > Julian
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Nij" <nigel@...>
> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 5:03 AM
> > Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Surprise Surprise....It works beautifully!
> >
> >
> > > Yesterday, I was cheering myself too! First framed prints of mine in a
> > local
> > > framing shop window (3 using Piezo BW, and 3 using Piezo Color... on
> > William
> > > Turner 310 and Photorag 310 respectively). A small step forward, but
an
> > > important one for me :)
> > >
> > > So for me too... Happy!
> > >
> > > Nij
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: sdmey4@... [mailto:sdmey4@...]
> > > >
> > > > In a message dated 11/01/2001 7:07:06 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> > > > steadmanuhlich@... writes:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > "when it works, it works...beautifully."
> > > >
> > > > My! Aren't we in an especially good mood tonight! A real pleasure
> > > > Steadman!
> > > > Nice to get a little income from ink efforts to elevate the mood.
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Yo Steadman!

I just did practically the same thing with my third older 1160 and a set
of the original MIS inks. I had the same results. All tests were
perfect, and so were the first prints. Mine had set for over 3 months,
so I really didn't expect much. I was very pleasantly surprised also. 
Guess we got a couple of the "good" printers. I suppose if the heads
make good contact where they are parked, the seal really is airtight.

Jerry



Steadman Uhlich wrote:

> 
> Sometimes our dreams come true.
> Sometimes luck is on our side.
> Sometimes the Great Printer Spirit in the sky smiles on us.
> 
> This morning,  I fired up one of my 1160s that had been sitting idle for about 8 weeks.  I had not printed a print on this machine in eight weeks.  It has a CIS from Nomorecarts and PiezoBW inkset and I printed using the user-friendly PiezoBW software...(and...no,  this is not a paid endorsement..).
> 
> So...after reading so much on these forums of the problems and their inevitability....I had my fingers crossed.  Here are the results...quite a surprise.
> 
> First nozzle check:  PERFECT
> 
> First Head Alignment:  PERFECT
> 
> First TEST image:  PERFECT
> 
> First Print 8x10: PERFECT  (printed about 10 prints...all perfect)
> 
> First 11x14: PERFECT  (printed about 6 prints this size...all perfect...no clogged nozzles or lines)
> 
> Of course this was a surprise for me.  I expected the worst after 8 weeks of inactivity.  I got the best.
> 
>  Each print was beautiful.  The images are delightful to look at..in all of their chocolate tones...(unsweet chocolate black...real yummy looking).
> 
> These prints look gorgeous.  They are why I bought into digital printmaking and why I am elated when I see these results from inexpensive printers using a relatively inexpensive CIS bulk ink system.
> 
> Based on these prints and others hanging in my studio, I got three portrait commissions today.  (GRIN)
> 
> So...to all those who have had the "Murphys Luck Syndrome"...I can only say...
> 
> "when it works, it works...beautifully."
> 
> And I wish you all success, happiness, clean nozzles, and peace.
> 
> Steadman
> 
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hi Julian,

Well, on the B&W I had actually bought a roll of WT 310 just before PR came
out, so I was pretty-much committed. Yes, I second your thoughts on it being
warmer than Photo Rag, but on this occasion, I am very happy with that - the
photos are of Prague and all have a kind of warm-and-worn feel to them. So,
for this I found the warmer tone just right (I even have a couple of images
I might purposefully print onto Somerset Velvet Enh Rad White to push the
warmth / age aspect).

As for the Colour being on PhotoRag, I have to admit that a lot of the
reasoning for this is down to it being a fairly neutral paper to stick
colour on-top of, and I found the Piezo Cone Matte profile a pretty good
hit... I still had nightmares adjusting the tone / colour sof the image
exactly how I wanted, but the screen softproof gave fairly accurate
indications of the print. Somehow, seeing the print is ALWAYS more important
though! The Pigment inks also gave a very good response with 'the colours of
Prague' which are all quite 'earthy' and muted, rich colours.

I think that's it!

Nij

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Julian Thomas [mailto:julianthomas@...]
> Sent: 02 November 2001 15:59
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Surprise Surprise....It works beautifully!
>
>
> How did you choose between PR and WT? Do you see a colour
> difference? I see
> WR as warmer than PR.
>
> Julian
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nij" <nigel@...>
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 4:55 PM
> Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Surprise Surprise....It works beautifully!
>
>
> > Yup - they're the ones on the web-site (looking a bit better than on the
> > web, I hope ;)
> >
> > Nij
> >