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2004-11-02 by Steve Kale
Has anyone noticed that this product does a fantastic job with (colour) film scans but an absolutely awful job with digital camera images? I have (or rather decided not to) used it with images from both simple 4 mp digicams and a Phase One back. Whenever I try to use it with the digital camera(s)/back I get horrible noise like results.
2004-11-02 by Steve Kale
I should add that this is with the Capture Sharpener element of the programme - I do not use the Creative Sharpener tools.
> From: Steve Kale <stevekale@...> > Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2004 23:51:19 -0000 > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Subject: [Digital BW] Photokit Sharpener Pro > > > > Has anyone noticed that this product does a fantastic job with (colour) film > scans but an > absolutely awful job with digital camera images? I have (or rather decided > not to) used it > with images from both simple 4 mp digicams and a Phase One back. Whenever I > try to use > it with the digital camera(s)/back I get horrible noise like results. >
2004-11-03 by Steve Smith
There is an updated version just out that should address those issues. I find that the 20d does a great job with digital mid res sharpen set to 20-30% and then 10-25% of super sharpen. This can leave room for the final out put sharpen and maybe a haze cutter filter. I find that if the haze filter is applied correctly that you can get by fablulously with less sharpening. ( digital cameras). And more appearance of surface depth and shape contour. Might be worth checking out the new version... Steve > > Has anyone noticed that this product does a fantastic job with (colour) film > scans but an > absolutely awful job with digital camera images? I have (or rather decided > not to) used it > with images from both simple 4 mp digicams and a Phase One back. Whenever I > try to use > it with the digital camera(s)/back I get horrible noise like results. > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership > without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W > printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the > membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and > Moderators. See Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE OWNER AND > MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU > FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY > DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, > USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE OWNER AND MODERATORS OF > DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH > DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, > THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR > TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE > DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE > DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ADVERTISEMENT > > <http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=1293ri9bt/M=315388.5543472.6613714.3001176/D=grou > ps/S=1705019182:HM/EXP=1099525944/A=2372354/R=0/SIG=12id813k2/*https://www.orc > hardbank.com/hcs/hcsapplication?pf=PLApply&media=EMYHNL40F21004SS> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > * To visit your group on the web, go to: > * http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/ > * > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > * DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsub > scribe> > * > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . > -- Steve Smith photosmith@... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2004-11-03 by Steve Kale
Ah - thanks for the heads-up. Will give it a go.
> From: Steve Smith <photosmith@...> > Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2004 18:12:31 -0600 > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Photokit Sharpener Pro > > > There is an updated version just out that should address those issues. I > find that the 20d does a great job with digital mid res sharpen set to > 20-30% and then 10-25% of super sharpen. This can leave room for the final > out put sharpen and maybe a haze cutter filter. I find that if the haze > filter is applied correctly that you can get by fablulously with less > sharpening. ( digital cameras). And more appearance of surface depth and > shape contour. Might be worth checking out the new version... > > Steve >
2004-11-03 by Steve Smith
I would use them in the capture mode especially if your scanning negative film. I like to just get the edges started use a tiny bit of the super sharpener and then save the remaining 30-40% for the final sharpen at output size and resolution. If you know that you need to upsample I would do that before running capture sharpen. This file might not be able to be repurposed as easily for smaller prints. > I should add that this is with the Capture Sharpener element of the > programme - I do not use the Creative Sharpener tools. > > >> > From: Steve Kale <stevekale@...> >> > Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> >> > Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2004 23:51:19 -0000 >> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> >> > Subject: [Digital BW] Photokit Sharpener Pro >> > >> > >> > >> > Has anyone noticed that this product does a fantastic job with (colour) >> film >> > scans but an >> > absolutely awful job with digital camera images? I have (or rather decided >> > not to) used it >> > with images from both simple 4 mp digicams and a Phase One back. Whenever I >> > try to use >> > it with the digital camera(s)/back I get horrible noise like results. >> > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership > without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W > printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the > membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and > Moderators. See Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE OWNER AND > MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU > FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY > DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, > USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE OWNER AND MODERATORS OF > DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH > DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, > THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR > TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE > DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE > DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ADVERTISEMENT > > <http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129kiqs44/M=315388.5543472.6613714.3001176/D=grou > ps/S=1705019182:HM/EXP=1099526375/A=2372354/R=0/SIG=12id813k2/*https://www.orc > hardbank.com/hcs/hcsapplication?pf=PLApply&media=EMYHNL40F21004SS> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > * To visit your group on the web, go to: > * http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/ > * > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > * DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsub > scribe> > * > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . > -- Steve Smith photosmith@verizon.net 401-453-1596 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2004-11-03 by Richard
Works well for me using a 1Ds Richard
-----Original Message----- From: Steve Kale [mailto:stevekale@...] Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 11:51 PM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Digital BW] Photokit Sharpener Pro Has anyone noticed that this product does a fantastic job with (colour) film scans but an absolutely awful job with digital camera images? I have (or rather decided not to) used it with images from both simple 4 mp digicams and a Phase One back. Whenever I try to use it with the digital camera(s)/back I get horrible noise like results. Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Links --- [This E-mail has been scanned for viruses but it is your responsibility to maintain up to date anti virus software on the device that you are currently using to read this email. ] --- [This E-mail has been scanned for viruses but it is your responsibility to maintain up to date anti virus software on the device that you are currently using to read this email. ]
2004-11-03 by Steve Kale
Is that with the new (er August) release or did it work with the old one? Whenever I do ANY Capture Sharpen with a Dig setting I get heavy artifacts in skin tones etc (even when sharpening is turned off in Capture One's processing). I have not tested the new release yet.
> From: Richard <richard@rwc.my-bulldog.com> > Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 05:52:04 -0000 > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Photokit Sharpener Pro > > > Works well for me using a 1Ds > > Richard > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Kale [mailto:stevekale@...] > Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 11:51 PM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] Photokit Sharpener Pro > > > > Has anyone noticed that this product does a fantastic job with (colour) film > scans but an > absolutely awful job with digital camera images? I have (or rather decided > not to) used it > with images from both simple 4 mp digicams and a Phase One back. Whenever I > try to use > it with the digital camera(s)/back I get horrible noise like results. > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the > membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W > printing. 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