Digital BW, The Print

Hi folks,

Are there any QTR users setting their top / left paper margins at 
less than .75" – or printing an image that, when
automatically centered by QTR, results in a margin this size? 

The reason I ask is that, when I print an 8x10 on letter sized paper, 
QTR leaves a messy ink trail on the left margin of the page (covering 
about 1/4" of the image itself). Looks like it wanted to keep 
printing but ran out of paper. (I'm letting QTR center the image top 
and left). When I downsize the print to 7.75 x 9.75 it prints fine. 

I just printed a 12x18 on super b sized paper and again got a
1/4" ink trail on the image and more ink on the left margin of
the page.

I'm an Epson 1280 user, on a PC and I'm only having this problem in 
landscape mode. 

Thank you in advance for any suggestions!

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "mccarvill"
<mark_mccarvill@s...> wrote:
> 
> Hi folks,

Hi Mark!
 
> Are there any QTR users setting their top / left paper margins at 
> less than .75" – or printing an image that, when
> automatically centered by QTR, results in a margin this size? 

Yes. QTR can use margins as small as 0.125 inch (a safety factor to
prevent overspray).
 
> The reason I ask is that, when I print an 8x10 on letter sized paper, 
> QTR leaves a messy ink trail on the left margin of the page (covering 
> about 1/4" of the image itself). Looks like it wanted to keep 
> printing but ran out of paper. (I'm letting QTR center the image top 
> and left). When I downsize the print to 7.75 x 9.75 it prints fine. 
> 
> I just printed a 12x18 on super b sized paper and again got a
> 1/4" ink trail on the image and more ink on the left margin of
> the page.
> 
> I'm an Epson 1280 user, on a PC and I'm only having this problem in 
> landscape mode. 

This may have nothing to do woth your problem, but are you telling QRT
to print 8x10 or 12x18? QTR gets the print size from the file itself,
so you have to set the size to 8x10 or 12x18 in the file itself (many
programs let you change the "image size" in a TIFF file, including
PhotoShop).

The size you set on the command line, the batch files, or in QTRgui is
the paper size. So, if you're setting 8x10, it's going to start
printing your image 7.875 to the left of the right edge of the paper
(8 inch paper size - 0.125 that I mentioned earlier) and continue to
the right until it runs out of paper 8 inches later, making a mess.

Hope this helps

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "mccarvill" 
<mark_mccarvill@s...> wrote:
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> Are there any QTR users setting their top / left paper margins at 
> less than .75" – or printing an image that, when
> automatically centered by QTR, results in a margin this size? 
> 
> The reason I ask is that, when I print an 8x10 on letter sized paper, 
> QTR leaves a messy ink trail on the left margin of the page (covering 
> about 1/4" of the image itself). Looks like it wanted to keep 
> printing but ran out of paper. (I'm letting QTR center the image top 
> and left). When I downsize the print to 7.75 x 9.75 it prints fine. 
> 
> I just printed a 12x18 on super b sized paper and again got a
> 1/4" ink trail on the image and more ink on the left margin of
> the page.
> 
> I'm an Epson 1280 user, on a PC and I'm only having this problem in 
> landscape mode. 
> 
> Thank you in advance for any suggestions!

It sounds a little like confusion of the image size and the paper size,
but I'm not sure exactly what you are seeing with the "messy ink trail".
Is the rest of the print just fine?  I.e. do you see the full image on the
paper plus an extra amount added?  Or is the whole page messed up?

Since this only seems to happen in landscape mode the easy workaround 
is to rotate you're image in Photoshop (or whatever program you are using)
and printing in portrait mode.  (This is faster anyway since the rotate
code in PS is very well optimized).

Roy

Hi Roy.

Thanks for the quick reply!

I rotated my 8x10 landscape image and printed it in portrait mode 
(with paper = letter and margins centered), but had the same problem. 
And by problem, I mean that after the image finishes printing (i.e. 
the image printed perfectly and there's a nice, clean edge), the 
print heads make a few extra trips back and forth, getting ink on the 
white border and on the edge of the image itself because the paper is 
no longer being held securely and gets turned a little by the 
movement of the print heads. 

Since I was prepared this time, I pulled the paper out as soon as it 
was done and the printer kept going, but no harm was done. Odd. No 
problems whatsoever when the print margins on the narrow (i.e.
8.5") side of the page are more than one inch. Maybe I'll
reinstall the software and see if that helps.

Mark 


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Roy Harrington" 
<roy@h...> wrote:
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "mccarvill" 
> <mark_mccarvill@s...> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi folks,
> > 
> > Are there any QTR users setting their top / left paper margins at 
> > less than .75" – or printing an image that, when
> > automatically centered by QTR, results in a margin this size? 
> > 
> > The reason I ask is that, when I print an 8x10 on letter sized 
paper, 
> > QTR leaves a messy ink trail on the left margin of the page 
(covering 
> > about 1/4" of the image itself). Looks like it wanted to keep 
> > printing but ran out of paper. (I'm letting QTR center the image 
top 
> > and left). When I downsize the print to 7.75 x 9.75 it prints 
fine. 
> > 
> > I just printed a 12x18 on super b sized paper and again got a
> > 1/4" ink trail on the image and more ink on the left margin of
> > the page.
> > 
> > I'm an Epson 1280 user, on a PC and I'm only having this problem 
in 
> > landscape mode. 
> > 
> > Thank you in advance for any suggestions!
> 
> It sounds a little like confusion of the image size and the paper 
size,
> but I'm not sure exactly what you are seeing with the "messy ink 
trail".
> Is the rest of the print just fine?  I.e. do you see the full image 
on the
> paper plus an extra amount added?  Or is the whole page messed up?
> 
> Since this only seems to happen in landscape mode the easy 
workaround 
> is to rotate you're image in Photoshop (or whatever program you are 
using)
> and printing in portrait mode.  (This is faster anyway since the 
rotate

> code in PS is very well optimized).
> 
> Roy

Hi there!

I was telling QTR to print an 8x10 image on letter sized paper. For 
12x18 I had specified super b. As I mentioned in a reply to Roy, I 
think I will reinstall the software and see if that helps.

Mark 

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "koloshor" 
<wiz@n...> wrote:
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "mccarvill"
> <mark_mccarvill@s...> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi folks,
> 
> Hi Mark!
>  
> > Are there any QTR users setting their top / left paper margins at 
> > less than .75" – or printing an image that, when
> > automatically centered by QTR, results in a margin this size? 
> 
> Yes. QTR can use margins as small as 0.125 inch (a safety factor to
> prevent overspray).
>  
> > The reason I ask is that, when I print an 8x10 on letter sized 
paper, 
> > QTR leaves a messy ink trail on the left margin of the page 
(covering 
> > about 1/4" of the image itself). Looks like it wanted to keep 
> > printing but ran out of paper. (I'm letting QTR center the image 
top 
> > and left). When I downsize the print to 7.75 x 9.75 it prints 
fine. 
> > 
> > I just printed a 12x18 on super b sized paper and again got a
> > 1/4" ink trail on the image and more ink on the left margin of
> > the page.
> > 
> > I'm an Epson 1280 user, on a PC and I'm only having this problem 
in 
> > landscape mode. 
> 
> This may have nothing to do woth your problem, but are you telling 
QRT
> to print 8x10 or 12x18? QTR gets the print size from the file 
itself,
> so you have to set the size to 8x10 or 12x18 in the file itself 
(many
> programs let you change the "image size" in a TIFF file, including
> PhotoShop).
> 
> The size you set on the command line, the batch files, or in QTRgui 
is

> the paper size. So, if you're setting 8x10, it's going to start
> printing your image 7.875 to the left of the right edge of the paper
> (8 inch paper size - 0.125 that I mentioned earlier) and continue to
> the right until it runs out of paper 8 inches later, making a mess.
> 
> Hope this helps