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2005-01-09 by jamie gannon
Is there chart of some kind on the net or belonging to a list member that depicts a range of fine art photo printing papers with sizes, quality, longevity, and relative pricing? I realize a comparison such as this would be a big task to create and may have some subjectivity inherent in deciding a paper's quality but boy would it be a good read. Thanks. Jamie
2005-01-09 by Jim Doyle
Wow That Would Be a real big list and Very Interesting!! To Boot!! My List That I keep is quite Long.. Approx. 95 Printed pages and it grows weekly..The only thing that I do not track is the longevity.. So many variables. Plus it takes a lot of Money and a real lot of time to get papers tested. I really dont track pricing either except for a few papers that I carry. After That I would need a full time person to do just that. Ray from Epson Wide format Group wanted to try and do it but couldnt get enough help.. Royce Bair from inkjetart used to have a list that he made public but I think he even gave up on it because it got so big. So if you find one please let me know I would love to see it! Cheers Jim Doyle J. Doyle Enterprises LLC. 114 Old Orchard Rd. Cherry Hill, NJ 08003 856-424-8660 http://www.shadesofpaper.com
-----Original Message----- From: jamie gannon [mailto:jamie@...] Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 10:42 PM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Digital BW] Paper Chart with Prices Is there chart of some kind on the net or belonging to a list member that depicts a range of fine art photo printing papers with sizes, quality, longevity, and relative pricing? I realize a comparison such as this would be a big task to create and may have some subjectivity inherent in deciding a paper's quality but boy would it be a good read. Thanks. Jamie Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE OWNER AND MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE OWNER AND MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Uns ubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.9 - Release Date: 1/6/2005 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2005-01-09 by jamie gannon
I would settle for a chart of Epson, Hahnemuhle, Somerset, Ilford, Arches, Legion, Media Street, Museo, Lyson, Moab, and, of course, your paper offerings. These must be found within your 95 page tome. Please share! I know we'd love to see it! Best, Jamie (I apologize for the odd line breaks in my posts - I post from within my browser. Not sure why they don't break as I see em?) --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Doyle" <jdoyle1713@c...> wrote: > Wow That Would Be a real big list and Very Interesting!! To Boot!! > > My List That I keep is quite Long.. Approx. 95 Printed pages and it grows > weekly..The only thing that I do not track is the longevity.. > So many variables. Plus it takes a lot of Money and a real lot of time to > get papers tested. I really don't track pricing either except for a few > papers that I carry. After That I would need a full time person to do just > that. Ray from Epson Wide format Group wanted to try and do it but couldn't > get enough help.. Royce Bair from inkjetart used to have a list that he made > public but I think he even gave up on it because it got so big. > > So if you find one please let me know I would love to see it! > > Cheers > > Jim Doyle > > J. Doyle Enterprises LLC. > 114 Old Orchard Rd. > Cherry Hill, NJ 08003 > 856-424-8660 > http://www.shadesofpaper.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: jamie gannon [mailto:jamie@s...] > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 10:42 PM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] Paper Chart with Prices > > > Is there chart of some kind on the net or belonging to a list member that > depicts a range > of fine art photo printing papers with sizes, quality, longevity, and > relative pricing? I > realize a comparison such as this would be a big task to create and may have > some > subjectivity inherent in deciding a paper's quality but boy would it be a > good read. Thanks. > > Jamie > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the > membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W > printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from > the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and > Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND > "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU > FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY > DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, > GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND > "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE > POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY > TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR > ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY
> THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER > MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > > > > _____ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > * To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/ > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Uns > ubscribe> > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.9 - Release Date: 1/6/2005 > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2005-01-09 by Jim Doyle
Sorry..Can not Do! If I did than What would I have to offer to my customers? INK? No thats another whole list.. Coatings? Another List Printers? Another Oh I get it I Could be the list builder.. Good Night:-) Jim Doyle J. Doyle Enterprises LLC. 114 Old Orchard Rd. Cherry Hill, NJ 08003 856-424-8660 http://sadesofpaper.com
-----Original Message----- From: jamie gannon [mailto:jamie@...] Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 12:27 AM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Paper Chart with Prices I would settle for a chart of Epson, Hahnemuhle, Somerset, Ilford, Arches, Legion, Media Street, Museo, Lyson, Moab, and, of course, your paper offerings. These must be found within your 95 page tome. Please share! I know we'd love to see it! Best, Jamie (I apologize for the odd line breaks in my posts - I post from within my browser. Not sure why they don't break as I see em?) --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Doyle" <jdoyle1713@c...> wrote: > Wow That Would Be a real big list and Very Interesting!! To Boot!! > > My List That I keep is quite Long.. Approx. 95 Printed pages and it grows > weekly..The only thing that I do not track is the longevity.. > So many variables. Plus it takes a lot of Money and a real lot of time to > get papers tested. I really don't track pricing either except for a few > papers that I carry. After That I would need a full time person to do just > that. Ray from Epson Wide format Group wanted to try and do it but couldn't > get enough help.. Royce Bair from inkjetart used to have a list that he made > public but I think he even gave up on it because it got so big. > > So if you find one please let me know I would love to see it! > > Cheers > > Jim Doyle > > J. Doyle Enterprises LLC. > 114 Old Orchard Rd. > Cherry Hill, NJ 08003 > 856-424-8660 > http://www.shadesofpaper.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: jamie gannon [mailto:jamie@s...] > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 10:42 PM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] Paper Chart with Prices > > > Is there chart of some kind on the net or belonging to a list member that > depicts a range > of fine art photo printing papers with sizes, quality, longevity, and > relative pricing? I > realize a comparison such as this would be a big task to create and may have > some > subjectivity inherent in deciding a paper's quality but boy would it be a > good read. Thanks. > > Jamie > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the > membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W > printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from > the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and > Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND > "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU > FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY > DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, > GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND > "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE > POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY > TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR > ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY > THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER > MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > > > > _____ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > * To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/ > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Uns > ubscribe> > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service < http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.9 - Release Date: 1/6/2005 > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. 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