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2005-01-06 by bghess_sp
Does anyone know how well PremierArt Print Shield spray eliminates bronzing using MIS UT7 inks on Epson Premium Luster paper. Is there an optimal time to apply the spray after printing, or doesn't it matter? -Ben
2005-01-07 by Paul Roark
Print Shield greatly reduces the bronzing, but it does not totally eliminate it. The lower the bronzing is before the spray, the better the final product will be. I think among Epson Premium papers, the Premium Semimatte may have the least bronzing. For some reason it's only being sold in rolls (even though I have a beta 17x22 box of it that seems fine). Paul www.PaulRoark.com
-----Original Message----- From: bghess_sp [mailto:bghess_sp@...] Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 2:41 PM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Digital BW] Print Shield (PremierArt) eliminates MIS bronzing Does anyone know how well PremierArt Print Shield spray eliminates bronzing using MIS UT7 inks on Epson Premium Luster paper. Is there an optimal time to apply the spray after printing, or doesn't it matter? -Ben Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Links
2005-01-07 by sinwen
Paul, The other way round, which paper gives the stronger bronzing ? With which inks combination ? Michel
----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Roark To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 1:25 AM Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Print Shield (PremierArt) eliminates MIS bronzing Print Shield greatly reduces the bronzing, but it does not totally eliminate it. The lower the bronzing is before the spray, the better the final product will be. I think among Epson Premium papers, the Premium Semimatte may have the least bronzing. For some reason it's only being sold in rolls (even though I have a beta 17x22 box of it that seems fine). Paul www.PaulRoark.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2005-01-07 by Paul Roark
Michel, I've never kept track of the worst papers -- there are so many. One person suggested Ilford Galerie Smooth Glossy. It's bad, but it seems typical of many or the high gloss pigment-compatible papers. Paul www.PaulRoark.com
-----Original Message----- From: sinwen [mailto:sinwen@...] Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 4:44 PM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Print Shield (PremierArt) eliminates MIS bronzing Paul, The other way round, which paper gives the stronger bronzing ? With which inks combination ? Michel ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Roark To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 1:25 AM Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Print Shield (PremierArt) eliminates MIS bronzing Print Shield greatly reduces the bronzing, but it does not totally eliminate it. The lower the bronzing is before the spray, the better the final product will be. I think among Epson Premium papers, the Premium Semimatte may have the least bronzing. For some reason it's only being sold in rolls (even though I have a beta 17x22 box of it that seems fine). Paul www.PaulRoark.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE OWNER AND MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE OWNER AND MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Links
2005-01-08 by steveabrink
Paul, When and where will the 17x22 in. sheet ver. of semi-matte be available? Thnaks in advance! SteveB --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "sinwen" <sinwen@f...> wrote: > Paul, > > The other way round, which paper gives the stronger bronzing ? With which inks combination ? > > Michel > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Paul Roark > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 1:25 AM > Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Print Shield (PremierArt) eliminates MIS bronzing > > > Print Shield greatly reduces the bronzing, but it does not totally eliminate > it. > > The lower the bronzing is before the spray, the better the final product > will be. I think among Epson Premium papers, the Premium Semimatte may have > the least bronzing. For some reason it's only being sold in rolls (even
> though I have a beta 17x22 box of it that seems fine). > > Paul > www.PaulRoark.com > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2005-01-08 by Paul Roark
I have no idea if or when Epson will release Premium Semimatte in 17 x 22 or other sheet sizes. They have a pro media department that might be worth contacting. Paul www.PaulRoark.com
-----Original Message----- From: steveabrink [mailto:steveabrink@...] Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 9:18 AM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Semi matte beta version ... Paul, When and where will the 17x22 in. sheet ver. of semi-matte be available? Thnaks in advance! SteveB --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "sinwen" <sinwen@f...> wrote: > Paul, > > The other way round, which paper gives the stronger bronzing ? With which inks combination ? > > Michel > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Paul Roark > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 1:25 AM > Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Print Shield (PremierArt) eliminates MIS bronzing > > > Print Shield greatly reduces the bronzing, but it does not totally eliminate > it. > > The lower the bronzing is before the spray, the better the final product > will be. I think among Epson Premium papers, the Premium Semimatte may have > the least bronzing. For some reason it's only being sold in rolls (even > though I have a beta 17x22 box of it that seems fine). > > Paul > www.PaulRoark.com > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Links
2005-01-08 by Tim Atherton
> I have no idea if or when Epson will release Premium Semimatte in > 17 x 22 or > other sheet sizes. They have a pro media department that might be worth > contacting. > does anyone know if the Ultrasmooth ahs come out in sheets yet? (13x19) - I've seen it listed but not in stock anywhere last time I looked tim
2005-01-08 by Paul Roark
From what I can tell Epson UltraSmooth is the same as PremierArt Fine Art Hot Press, which is available in various sizes and weights. WWW.ITSupplies.com may have the best stock and prices. Paul www.PaulRoark.com
-----Original Message----- From: Tim Atherton [mailto:timatherton@...] Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 2:05 PM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Re: Semi matte beta version ... + Ultrasmooth > I have no idea if or when Epson will release Premium Semimatte in > 17 x 22 or > other sheet sizes. They have a pro media department that might be worth > contacting. > does anyone know if the Ultrasmooth ahs come out in sheets yet? (13x19) - I've seen it listed but not in stock anywhere last time I looked tim Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE OWNER AND MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE OWNER AND MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Links
2005-01-09 by john dean
Yea, it is, and the Premier Art comes in a larger variety of weights than the Ultra Smooth. From what I've been told it is the same media but Epson puts an additional coat on it. But, regardless they profile the same and are identical as far as my eye can see. I keep asking who is the Premier Art company that is doing such nice r & d and no one seems to know where they came from. John
> From what I can tell Epson UltraSmooth is the same as PremierArt Fine Art > Hot Press, which is available in various sizes and weights. > WWW.ITSupplies.com may have the best stock and prices. > > Paul > www.PaulRoark.com > >
2005-01-09 by ldina
Where does one buy the Premier Fine Art paper and what is the exact name. I want the paper that is like Epson UltraSmooth, but I need it in sheet form for my 2200. Thanks. Lou --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@v...> wrote: > From what I can tell Epson UltraSmooth is the same as PremierArt Fine Art
> Hot Press, which is available in various sizes and weights. > WWW.ITSupplies.com may have the best stock and prices. > > Paul > www.PaulRoark.com
2005-01-09 by Tim Atherton
> From what I can tell Epson UltraSmooth is the same as PremierArt Fine Art > Hot Press, which is available in various sizes and weights. > WWW.ITSupplies.com may have the best stock and prices. > i know we've discussed this quite a bit over the last year, but after some testing I've come to the conclusion they aren't quite the same. > Yea, it is, and the Premier Art comes in a larger variety of > weights than the Ultra Smooth. > From what I've been told it is the same media but Epson puts an > additional coat on it. I've run numerous tests now with FAHP and offcuts of Ultrasmooth from rolls. it's that epson coating that seems to make the difference. Ultrasmooth gives better blacks/dmax, a 'crisper' prints (and better colour) than FAHP. which is a shame, as FAHP has a lovely feel to it and almost no flaking - as well as a variety of weights tim
2005-01-09 by Tim Atherton
> Where does one buy the Premier Fine Art paper and what is the exact > name. I want the paper that is like Epson UltraSmooth, but I need it > in sheet form for my 2200. > http://www.premierimagingproducts.com/pdf/media/Premier_Art_Hot_Press.pdf http://www.photowarehouse.biz/imaging.html
2005-01-09 by Jim Doyle
Tim It�s all In The Coating!! That�s what I have been Told By The Chemists!! Jim Doyle J. Doyle Enterprises LLC. 114 Old Orchard Rd. Cherry Hill, NJ 08003 856-424-8660 www.shadesofpaper.com
-----Original Message----- From: Tim Atherton [mailto:timatherton@...] Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 1:20 AM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Re: Semi matte beta version ... + Ultrasmooth > From what I can tell Epson UltraSmooth is the same as PremierArt Fine Art > Hot Press, which is available in various sizes and weights. > WWW.ITSupplies.com may have the best stock and prices. > i know we've discussed this quite a bit over the last year, but after some testing I've come to the conclusion they aren't quite the same. > Yea, it is, and the Premier Art comes in a larger variety of > weights than the Ultra Smooth. > From what I've been told it is the same media but Epson puts an > additional coat on it. I've run numerous tests now with FAHP and offcuts of Ultrasmooth from rolls. it's that epson coating that seems to make the difference. Ultrasmooth gives better blacks/dmax, a 'crisper' prints (and better colour) than FAHP. which is a shame, as FAHP has a lovely feel to it and almost no flaking - as well as a variety of weights tim Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See �Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines� in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE �OWNER� AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE �OWNER� AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Uns ubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.9 - Release Date: 1/6/2005 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2005-01-09 by ldina
Thanks, Tim! Lou --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Tim Atherton <timatherton@t...> wrote: > > > Where does one buy the Premier Fine Art paper and what is the exact > > name. I want the paper that is like Epson UltraSmooth, but I need it > > in sheet form for my 2200. > > > > > http://www.premierimagingproducts.com/pdf/media/Premier_Art_Hot_Press. pdf > > http://www.photowarehouse.biz/imaging.html