Digital BW, The Print

Michael,

That is some very exciting news!

Is the "Vivid" setting any relation to the Vivid that shows up in the 
Epson 1270 drive when you choose Custom>PhotoEnhance4? Is there 
something similar in the 1280 driver? Or is the "Vivid" just an 
option on the 7000?

Martin


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Michael J. Kravit" 
<kravit@b...> wrote:
> Sorry about that, I guess we need to watch the subject line more 
closely.
> 
> I have two printers, a 1280 and a 7000. To tell you the truth, with 
a 6x loupe and the Epson driver they are both comparable. Since Epson 
does not publish the droplet size of the 7000, I looked in the 
Calgraph technicians service manual. It states that the heads are DX3 
Drop on Demand 4 picoliter heads. I would have to believe this as the 
1280 drop size is visually indistinguishable from the 7000.
> 
> I will tell you that with Paul Roarks curves and the Variable Tone 
inks using the Epson Driver and the Custom controls set at "Vivid" 
and not Automatic, I am getting dotless prints.

> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Sorry about that, I guess we need to watch the subject line more closely.

I have two printers, a 1280 and a 7000. To tell you the truth, with a 6x loupe and the Epson driver they are both comparable. Since Epson does not publish the droplet size of the 7000, I looked in the Calgraph technicians service manual. It states that the heads are DX3 Drop on Demand 4 picoliter heads. I would have to believe this as the 1280 drop size is visually indistinguishable from the 7000.

I will tell you that with Paul Roarks curves and the Variable Tone inks using the Epson Driver and the Custom controls set at "Vivid" and not Automatic, I am getting dotless prints.

Mike


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Mike,

Found it on the 1270 driver. I've used this thing for a year and 
never noticed that one.

With the CIS for the 1270/1280/1290 series available and the new inks 
from MIS this is looking really appealing.

Thanks,

Martin Wesley

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Michael J. Kravit" 
<kravit@b...> wrote:
> Martin,
> 
> Under;
> 
> Print/Setup/Properties/Custom/Advanced/
> 
> Set Mode=Vivid.
> Do not use Photoenhance4
> 
> Mike
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: mwesley250@e... 
>   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y... 
>   Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 5:24 PM
>   Subject: [Digital BW] Re:Epson 7000 droplet size
> 
> 
>   Michael,
> 
>   That is some very exciting news!
> 
>   Is the "Vivid" setting any relation to the Vivid that shows up in 
the 

>   Epson 1270 drive when you choose Custom>PhotoEnhance4? Is there 
>   something similar in the 1280 driver? Or is the "Vivid" just an 
>   option on the 7000?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Martin,

Under;

Print/Setup/Properties/Custom/Advanced/

Set Mode=Vivid.
Do not use Photoenhance4

Mike

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: mwesley250@... 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 5:24 PM
  Subject: [Digital BW] Re:Epson 7000 droplet size


  Michael,

  That is some very exciting news!

  Is the "Vivid" setting any relation to the Vivid that shows up in the 
  Epson 1270 drive when you choose Custom>PhotoEnhance4? Is there 
  something similar in the 1280 driver? Or is the "Vivid" just an 
  option on the 7000?




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Please remember that you need the Roark Curves for the 1280. You can download them from the MIS SIte.

Good Luck
Mike

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: mwesley250@... 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 5:52 PM
  Subject: [Digital BW] Re:Epson 7000 droplet size


  Mike,

  Found it on the 1270 driver. I've used this thing for a year and 
  never noticed that one.

  With the CIS for the 1270/1280/1290 series available and the new inks 
  from MIS this is looking really appealing.

  Thanks,

  Martin Wesley



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I found that the "vivid" setting worked best for the 3000 also.  It may not
be the best for other printers.

In general, I've written the curves for the "automatic" setting on the
smaller desktop units.  Curves that were balanced for that setting will not
produce good grayscale ramps with the "vivid" setting.

I can't tell from the Epson materials exactly what these setting do.  I
originally thought that "automatic" would be best because the Epson
materials I found indicated that "automatic" gave the best control or most
accurate translation of the file to the print.  As a practical matter,
however, I can't really see any difference in terms of ability to control
the printer with the Photoshop curves.  So, the other differences -- even a
dither difference, apparently -- seems to be the main differences for at
least the larger printers.

I've also notice that on some printers the curves needed to control the
inkset are less "radical" with one setting or the other.  In general, the
less radical, straighter curves are less likely to result in unwanted
artifacts.  With the 3000, for example, a very steep slope seems to cause
more dots than does darker ink in the light tones.  Getting these nice, mild
slopes is one reason I prefer the 6-ink printers.  The curves needed to
control the inkset are relatively straight, and this seems to result in
fewer humps in the ramp and other undesirable printer artifacts.

Paul

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Michael J. Kravit [mailto:kravit@...]
  Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 3:41 PM
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re:Epson 7000 droplet size


  Martin,

  Under;

  Print/Setup/Properties/Custom/Advanced/

  Set Mode=Vivid.
  Do not use Photoenhance4

  Mike
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: mwesley250@...
    To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 5:24 PM
    Subject: [Digital BW] Re:Epson 7000 droplet size


    Michael,

    That is some very exciting news!

    Is the "Vivid" setting any relation to the Vivid that shows up in the
    Epson 1270 drive when you choose Custom>PhotoEnhance4? Is there
    something similar in the 1280 driver? Or is the "Vivid" just an
    option on the 7000?




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