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Epson 300 Inkset

Epson 300 Inkset

2005-02-09 by remkopieter

after several years of trouble with the Piezo ink on a 1160 I decided 
to change to MIS inks.

I now have the choice betweeen a 2100/2200 and or a refurbished 3000 
I got.

The ink choice for the 2110/2200 is  more or less clear to me however 
the ink for the 300 is confusing. Paul Roark is speaking of a varibal 
tone ink but on the M IS site I only find FS and FSN inks.

I also understood a good option is to use the Eboni black and 
Photoblack in the 2100/2200 together with the color-inkset in the 
2100/2200.

I hope to get some advise in deciding what to do.

remko

RE: [Digital BW] Epson 3000 Inkset

2005-02-09 by Paul Roark

Remko,

The MIS UT inkset works on the 3000, but it is a bit rough.
 
The UT-FSN is the one I'd favor for that old machine.  It can make good
display prints.  I have some curves for EEM, PhotoRag and Premium Matte (but
this was the original, and I don't know what the current version prints
like).

I see the 3000 as a bit long in the tooth, but for 16 x 20 and matte paper,
it's still the most affordable way to get there.  In actual practice, I
doubt anyone could tell the difference between a 3000 matte 16 x 20 and one
done on a 7600.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 
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-----Original Message-----
From: remkopieter [mailto:r.p.de.graaff@...] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 1:17 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Epson 300 Inkset



after several years of trouble with the Piezo ink on a 1160 I decided 
to change to MIS inks.

I now have the choice betweeen a 2100/2200 and or a refurbished 3000 
I got.

The ink choice for the 2110/2200 is  more or less clear to me however 
the ink for the 300 is confusing. Paul Roark is speaking of a varibal 
tone ink but on the M IS site I only find FS and FSN inks.

I also understood a good option is to use the Eboni black and 
Photoblack in the 2100/2200 together with the color-inkset in the 
2100/2200.

I hope to get some advise in deciding what to do.

remko






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RE: [Digital BW] Epson 3000 Inkset

2005-02-10 by R.P. de Graaff

Thanks so far Paul,

 

I am happy you told me the 3000 is not completely obsolete. So I will line
up the 3000 I got here for B&W . It would be nice to be able to vary the
tone however.

 

For that prints how need toning I assume I can use the 2100/2200 straight as
it is?

 

When I checked  the MIS workflow page again I found that a workflow from
your hand for the FS and FSN ink are mentioned. However following that lead
to your so called partionated workflow the VM-QUAD-SET is mentioned. Also
the curves are for this inkset.

 

Are the curves and workflow you mean in your privet files?

 

Many other workflows are mentioned and the most curves are for the 1160. Are
those compatible?

 

remko

 

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Van: Paul Roark [mailto:paul.roark@...] 
Verzonden: woensdag 9 februari 2005 17:19
Aan: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Onderwerp: RE: [Digital BW] Epson 3000 Inkset

 

Remko,

The MIS UT inkset works on the 3000, but it is a bit rough.

The UT-FSN is the one I'd favor for that old machine.  It can make good
display prints.  I have some curves for EEM, PhotoRag and Premium Matte (but
this was the original, and I don't know what the current version prints
like).

I see the 3000 as a bit long in the tooth, but for 16 x 20 and matte paper,
it's still the most affordable way to get there.  In actual practice, I
doubt anyone could tell the difference between a 3000 matte 16 x 20 and one
done on a 7600.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 
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-----Original Message-----
From: remkopieter [mailto:r.p.de.graaff@...] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 1:17 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Epson 300 Inkset



after several years of trouble with the Piezo ink on a 1160 I decided 
to change to MIS inks.

I now have the choice betweeen a 2100/2200 and or a refurbished 3000 
I got.

The ink choice for the 2110/2200 is  more or less clear to me however 
the ink for the 300 is confusing. Paul Roark is speaking of a varibal 
tone ink but on the M IS site I only find FS and FSN inks.

I also understood a good option is to use the Eboni black and 
Photoblack in the 2100/2200 together with the color-inkset in the 
2100/2200.

I hope to get some advise in deciding what to do.

remko






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