Re: [Digital BW] Signing RC prints; questions for Seth
2005-02-25 by rikeller
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2005-02-25 by rikeller
Seth, OK, you've got me curious now. I'll bite: > 2. There is a layer of wax paper and why (in case they start disassembling). Why? > 4. The reason for metal frames and what they face going to wood or composite What do they face? > 5. The reason I do NOT put brown dust covers OR why there is white paper(butcher paper w/o a "sweet" side. The reason? Thanks in advance! Rik
2005-02-25 by Seth
The wax paper is a vapor/atmospheric barrier. DuPont Mylar sheet would be best but VERY expensive. It slows migration of chemicals through the back. Acrylic wall paint can emit solvents for 45-60 days. Oil-based paints from one to two or more years. Composite frames are made from the same saw dust/glue particles that are used in shelving/cheap computer desks, etc. In addition to formaldehyde, they contain some acids. Woods, especially, non-hardwoods emit acids. The rabbet should be lined with a mylar or polyester tape before the mat is inserted. Brown papers are not totally acid-free or pH neutral AND tend to draw moisture. The uncoated butcher paper is better (if it had acid it would attack the meat you stored in it), and is a better vapor barrier. Seth ==-----Original Message----- ==From: rikeller [mailto:rikeller@...] == ==OK, you've got me curious now. I'll bite: == ==> 2. There is a layer of wax paper and why (in case they start ==disassembling). == ==Why? == ==> 4. The reason for metal frames and what they face going to wood or ==composite == ==What do they face? == ==> 5. The reason I do NOT put brown dust covers OR why there is white ==paper(butcher paper w/o a "sweet" side. == ==The reason? == ==Thanks in advance! == ==Rik == == == == == == == ==------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ==--------------------~--> ==Has someone you know been affected by illness or disease? ==Network for Good is THE place to support health awareness efforts! ==http://us.click.yahoo.com/rkgkPB/UOnJAA/Zx0JAA/ucIolB/TM ==-------------------------------------------------------------- ==------~-> == ==Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other ==resources as they are often being updated. == ==http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint == ==If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or ==you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership ==preferences by visiting this same page. == ==Please follow these basic guidelines: ==- As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier ==messages to keep them short. ==- Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks ==or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be ==removed from the membership without notice. ==- Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of ==digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic ==posts may be removed from the membership. ==- By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group ==rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and ==decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group ==Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: ==http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ == ==BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL ==BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE ==THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT ==YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, ==INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY ==DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF ==PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN ==IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT ==YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH ==DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE ==THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ==ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) ==STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, ==THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO ==THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. == ==Yahoo! Groups Links == == == == == == == == ==
2005-02-25 by Paul Roark
> The wax paper is a vapor/atmospheric barrier. DuPont Mylar sheet >would be best but VERY expensive. It slows migration of chemicals >through the back... Some years ago I used cheap cardboard in framing and put either wax paper or aluminum foil between that and the interior materials. I took them apart after a number of years and found the acids had migrated right through the wax paper, but not through the aluminum foil. Paul www.PaulRoark.com
2005-02-25 by Martin Carrington
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@v...> wrote: > > Some years ago I used cheap cardboard in framing and put either wax paper or > aluminum foil between that and the interior materials. I took them apart > after a number of years and found the acids had migrated right through the > wax paper, but not through the aluminum foil. > > Paul > www.PaulRoark.com For my 'real' job I work for a company that fabricates space hardware. Where absolute contamination control is needed aluminum foil is commonly used for packaging. Commercial aluminum foil is very clean and free from contaminants and provides an excellent barrier material. Regards Martin
2005-02-25 by Seth
Probably. CutRite isn't the primo paper it was. Imagine what it would have been w/o the wax paper. I think the tin foil is the cheap alternative to Mylar. Seth