Digital BW, The Print

I had problems with flaking until I started to wipe the paper with a 
soft cloth or tissue paper before I put it in the printer - voilá - no 
more flaking..=*^)
			

Christer, AKA Christer Rosewell
http://www.ChristerArt.com
		


On Feb 25, 2005, at 9:16 AM, 
DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com wrote:

>  From: Douglas Meeuwsen <lipshurt@...>
> Subject: Re: inks and papers
>
> I think velvet fine art is a real nice paper with great image quality,
> and with MIS inks has a very nice smooth look. The texture does not
> seem to get in the way especially with bigger 13x19 prints. the Texture
> might be too obvious on smaller prints though. Some people have said
> that it flakes too much, But I have not noticed that yet. All of the
> prints I did with it went right under glass.
> On Feb 24, 2005, at 5:56 PM, Michael C wrote:
>
>>  did not notice Epson Velvet fine art paper listed as a
>>  recommended paper. I have this paper, will it produce good results?


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Hello Christer,

I've been trying to reduce flakes using such extreme measures as
sanding and scrubbing until I read your email. It turns out a soft
cloth works wonder. I found some towels made of a material called
microfiber or micro-loop which is supposed to be good at grabbing
small particles. Some lens cleaning microfiber cloth might work very
well, too.

Thanks for sharing your tip,
--nick

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@...m, Christer
Rosewelll <christerart@m...> wrote:

> I had problems with flaking until I started to wipe the paper with a 
> soft cloth or tissue paper before I put it in the printer - voil� - no 
> more flaking..=*^)
> 			
> 
> Christer, AKA Christer Rosewell
> http://www.ChristerArt.com

Nick,

that's great!  I'm pleased it works for you too! So nice when we share 
and learn from  each other!..=*^)

Christer
			Christer, AKA Christer Rosewell

			  http://www.ChristerArt.com
		  	


On Feb 26, 2005, at 10:24 AM, 
DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com wrote:

>  From: "Nick H. Nugent" <nghin@...>
> Subject: Re: Velvet fine art and flaking
>
>
> Hello Christer,
>
> I've been trying to reduce flakes using such extreme measures as
> sanding and scrubbing until I read your email. It turns out a soft
> cloth works wonder. I found some towels made of a material called
> microfiber or micro-loop which is supposed to be good at grabbing
> small particles. Some lens cleaning microfiber cloth might work very
> well, too.
>
> Thanks for sharing your tip,
> --nick

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On 2/26/05 2:58 AM, "Nick H. Nugent" sent the following verbage:

> 
> Hello Christer,
> 
> I've been trying to reduce flakes using such extreme measures as
> sanding and scrubbing until I read your email. It turns out a soft
> cloth works wonder. I found some towels made of a material called
> microfiber or micro-loop which is supposed to be good at grabbing
> small particles. Some lens cleaning microfiber cloth might work very
> well, too.
> 
> Thanks for sharing your tip,
> --nick


Just another thought for you..

For german etching, william turner and photoRag, I use a drafting brush,
natural bristle, brisk brushing. Using a cloth I found that it 'burnished'
the paper coating. People I know using these 'flaking' papers have good
results with brushing.

Carolyn

I've put some unused cartridges for Epson 860, 1160, or 1520 (or other) 
printers up on eBay.

	MIS UT-FS ink "color" cartridges (1 new, 1 slightly used)

	MIS UT Eboni black cartridges (2 new, 1 slightly used)

	Cone Piezeography selenium cartridges(1 new black, 1 new "color")
	(Note that these technically expired on 5/2004.)

To find these auctions, look for seller 'maineislandphoto'.

New cartridges are, of course, in sealed packages!

		A r t h u r    F i n k     P h o t o g r a p h y
		------------------------------------------------
		Ten New Island Avenue               207.766.5722
		Peaks Island, Maine 04108  arthur@...

Hi Carolyn,

Yes, you're right about the "burnished" coating aspect. But the
problem I had previously with a brush is that I couldn't somehow break
loose the lumps especially on Hahn. WT which will eventually fall off
after printing. I have tried a variety of brushes to no avail.

But with a "grabbing" cloth I found it works very well with such paper
as Hahn. WT. With this cloth I just gently wipe and I could feel it
picking stuff off of the paper. I'm sure vigorous buffing using this
cloth will lead to burnishing. But using the cloth I'm using now there
is no need to wipe very hard at all.

The way I test this is print a large swatch of pure black and after
the ink has cured for a period of time I'd run my finger across it
trying to get some flakes. I'd even use the cloth to wipe across it to
see if flakes develop. If I got no flakes, the method works.

And I don't think I got any burnishing either because I didn't lose
any dmax after using the cloth.

Anyway if the drafting brush works for you that's great. Because any
white specks that show up is very disheartening.

Thanks,
--nick

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Carolyn Frayn
<carolyn@u...> wrote:

> For german etching, william turner and photoRag, I use a drafting 
> brush, natural bristle, brisk brushing. Using a cloth I found that it 
> 'burnished' the paper coating. People I know using these 'flaking' 
> papers have good results with brushing.
> 
> Carolyn

On 2/26/05 3:00 PM, "Nick H. Nugent" sent the following verbage:

> 
> 
> Hi Carolyn,
> 
> Yes, you're right about the "burnished" coating aspect.

Some don't seem to have that issue, thanks for seeing it.

> But the
> problem I had previously with a brush is that I couldn't somehow break
> loose the lumps especially on Hahn. WT which will eventually fall off
> after printing. I have tried a variety of brushes to no avail.

Willy T is the flakiest for sure, beautiful paper though.

> 
> But with a "grabbing" cloth I found it works very well with such paper
> as Hahn. WT. 

Thanks, I might give that a try.


> 
> Anyway if the drafting brush works for you that's great. Because any
> white specks that show up is very disheartening.

Yes, very... <G>

Carolyn