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2005-04-22 by Paul Roark
MIS will make 2200 pre-filled Glop carts and list them on the following page: http://www.inksupply.com/roarkslab.cfm . I use Glop with Kirkland paper for the best results. The Ilford curves work well for Kirkland, and I'll put Ilford-Glop curves on my web page now. Paul www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.paulroark.com/> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2005-04-22 by Douglas Meeuwsen
Paul, I was wondering if it is possible to achieve a carbon look. I notice that you have neutral and cool, but not carbon. I got some semi-matte yesterday, and am wondering about a carbon curve for that too. Maybe not possible because there is no yellow in ink?.....thanks in advance. P.S., The semi-matte looks and feels perfect for what I am looking for. It came in 17x22, too big for my 1280, so I cut it into one 12x17, and one 10x17. This allows one 11x15 print and one 9x12. Pretty cheap too at $65 for 50 prints. I also could have got two 8x10s but I usually dont use that aspect ratio. Pretty cool, Doug M On Apr 22, 2005, at 11:16 AM, Paul Roark wrote: > MIS will make 2200 pre-filled Glop carts and list them on the following > page: > > http://www.inksupply.com/roarkslab.cfm . > > > > I use Glop with Kirkland paper for the best results.� The Ilford > curves work > well for Kirkland, and I'll put Ilford-Glop curves on my web page now. > > > > Paul > > www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.paulroark.com/>� > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish > to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting > this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to > keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from > the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be > removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group > Owner and Moderators. See �Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines� in the > Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE �OWNER� > AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE > LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, > CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE > LOSSES (EVEN IF THE� �OWNER� AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), > RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, > THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF > YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD > PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER > MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > � To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/ > � > � To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > � > � Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2005-04-22 by Paul Roark
Doug, There is an Ilford-Kirkland carbon-glop curve posted. The curve & tone that cannot work with Glop is sepia. The sepia and glop take the same spot. Paul www.PaulRoark.com
> -----Original Message----- > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Douglas > Meeuwsen > Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 11:29 AM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] 2200 Gloss Optimizer (Glop) > > > Paul, I was wondering if it is possible to achieve a carbon look. I > notice that you have neutral and cool, but not carbon. I got some > semi-matte yesterday, and am wondering about a carbon curve for that > too. Maybe not possible because there is no yellow in ink?.....thanks > in advance. > P.S., The semi-matte looks and feels perfect for what I am looking for. > It came in 17x22, too big for my 1280, so I cut it into one 12x17, and > one 10x17. This allows one 11x15 print and one 9x12. Pretty cheap too > at $65 for 50 prints. I also could have got two 8x10s but I usually > dont use that aspect ratio. Pretty cool, Doug M > > > On Apr 22, 2005, at 11:16 AM, Paul Roark wrote: > > > MIS will make 2200 pre-filled Glop carts and list them on the following > > page: > > > > http://www.inksupply.com/roarkslab.cfm . > > > > > > > > I use Glop with Kirkland paper for the best results. The Ilford > > curves work > > well for Kirkland, and I'll put Ilford-Glop curves on my web page now. > > > > > > > > Paul > > > > www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.paulroark.com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > > resources as they are often being updated. > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish > > to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting > > this same page. > > > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to > > keep them short. > > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > > flames. 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2005-04-22 by Douglas Meeuwsen
thanks paul.....got it...must have missed it the first time......Thanky On Apr 22, 2005, at 12:34 PM, Paul Roark wrote: > Doug, > > There is an Ilford-Kirkland carbon-glop curve posted.� The curve & > tone that > cannot work with Glop is sepia.� The sepia and glop take the same > spot. > > Paul > www.PaulRoark.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of > Douglas > > Meeuwsen > > Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 11:29 AM > > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] 2200 Gloss Optimizer (Glop) > > > > > > Paul, I was wondering if it is possible to achieve a carbon look. I > > notice that you have neutral and cool, but not carbon. I got some > > semi-matte yesterday, and am wondering about a carbon curve for that > > too. Maybe not possible because there is no yellow in > ink?.....thanks > > in advance. > > P.S., The semi-matte looks and feels perfect for what I am looking > for. > > It came in 17x22, too big for my 1280, so I cut it into one 12x17, > and > > one 10x17. This allows one 11x15 print and one 9x12. Pretty cheap > too > > at $65 for 50 prints. I also could have got two 8x10s but I usually > > dont use that aspect ratio. Pretty cool, Doug M > > > > > > On Apr 22, 2005, at 11:16 AM, Paul Roark wrote: > > > > > MIS will make 2200 pre-filled Glop carts and list them on the > following > > >� page: > > > > > > http://www.inksupply.com/roarkslab.cfm . > > > > > > > > > > > >� I use Glop with Kirkland paper for the best results.� The Ilford > > > curves work > > >� well for Kirkland, and I'll put Ilford-Glop curves on my web > page now. > > > > > > > > > > > >� Paul > > > > > >� www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.paulroark.com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >� [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > > > resources as they are often being updated. > > > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > > > > >� If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you > wish > > > to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by > visiting > > > this same page. > > > > > >� Please follow these basic guidelines: > > >� - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier > messages to > > > keep them short. > > >� - Good manners are required at all time. 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