Digital BW, The Print

I just received an Innova sample pack from Jim and was curious. Is Innova
Soft Texture similar to Hahnemuhle German Etching and Innova Cold Press Art
similar to William Turner? Although I have some Hahnemuhle Photo Rag, I've
never seen German Etching or William Turner in person.

A second, but related question. How have you found Intelicoat's Textured
Fine Art paper (Magiclee FAP225-T) perform relative to the Innova and
Hahnemuhle papers above?

Thanks,

Terry.

Yes, the Innova Soft Texture is very similar to Hahnemuhle German Etching 
paper. They are both archival alpha cellulose papers with a wonderful texture 
and thickness. The texture is what I perceive as halfway between German 
Etching and Hahnemuhle Photorag, which are themselves pretty close in 
surface. This may end up being my  all time favourite paper. It is what I always 
wished Somerset Velvet or German Etching could have been. This paper 
seems to have the strength of Somerset and the beauty of G. Etching.

As I write this I am doing a show for one of my clients on the Soft Texture, 
which is in color with Ultrachrome. This paper just works fantastic with 
Ultrachrome. It is one of the easiest papers I have evey worked with. The 
gamut is great, the blacks are great, it is tough. I just don't have anything 
negative to say about it at all. I always loved German Etching too since I first 
used it about 6 years ago. But I had trouble with the blacks chipping off and 
the surfacing scratching. I've had none of this with Innova. This past week I did 
about 25 small black and white things with these Innova papers and I am sold 
on them 100%. And as you know the price is right.

The Soft Cotton is actually slightly finer in texture than H Photo Rag and very 
slightly thinner than the PR 308. I think they really researched these products 
because it is quite nice to have a very smooth 100% white rag to work with 
with all size images. I am very pleased at how it functions with even things as 
small as 8x10 for portfolios. It could be a little thicker but the price and coating 
have sold me.

The new one, the Cold Press Fine Art I belive is similar to W. Turner but I 
haven't ordered any yet. Since William Turner is one of my all time favourite 
media I am very curious to try the Cold PFA.

Jim Doyle has been great in letting us sample these great new papers. And I 
plan on doing a lot of business with him this year because of his knowledge 
and enthuasism with these great papers.

Sorry I don't know anything about the Intelicoat media.

John ( still printing at 10:35 pm)




--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Terry Ritz" <
t.ritz@a...> wrote:
> I just received an Innova sample pack from Jim and was curious. Is Innova
> Soft Texture similar to Hahnemuhle German Etching and Innova Cold Press 
Art
> similar to William Turner? Although I have some Hahnemuhle Photo Rag, 
I've

> never seen German Etching or William Turner in person.
> 
> A second, but related question. How have you found Intelicoat's Textured
> Fine Art paper (Magiclee FAP225-T) perform relative to the Innova and
> Hahnemuhle papers above?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Terry.

I sampled the Intelicoat fine art paper. I found it to be 
unsatisfactory. Blacks became shiny, gamut was only OK, feels kind 
of ... well odd. Just not an impressive paper. The Intelicoat 17 mil 
canvas on the other hand was very good with excellent gamut and dmax, 
so not sure how they messed up the fine art paper.

Anybody know if there is a UK online shop who stock Innova paper? Here 
in Norway the selection of fine paper is very limited and too 
expensive.
The other day I bought some Ilford Smooth Fine Art paper and paid 
almost $4 a sheet A4!

thanks,
danny

Danny Twang wrote:

>Anybody know if there is a UK online shop who stock Innova paper? Here 
>in Norway the selection of fine paper is very limited and too 
>expensive.
>The other day I bought some Ilford Smooth Fine Art paper and paid 
>almost $4 a sheet A4!
>
>thanks,
>danny
>
>
>  
>
http://www.innovaart.com/contact.html
will give you the Innova contacts. They can give you the addresses in the UK.
On the same page are two Dutch people mentioned who are quite involved in Innova. 
They have a shop in The Netherlands:

http://www.arca-nl.nl/

You could order there too I guess. 
Friendly people.
No stocks in that company :-)

Ernst