Digital BW, The Print

Heard from an Epson top level manager in Europe that the current Epson 
4000 shall have a sister in the next months, something like a 4400 or 
4800 with a new additional grey cart (it would mean that the new 4000 
would have 9 carts with two different blacks and two different grey).
Isn't it great news?

Of course this is to be considered as rather informal and prelimary but 
considered the rank of the guy, I do not think that this is a pure 
European rumor.

Best regards

JM Humbert

The June issue of Shutterbug already has mentioned that, page 159.

Scott



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Jean-Marc 
Humbert" <humbertjm@y...> wrote:
> Heard from an Epson top level manager in Europe that the current 
Epson 
> 4000 shall have a sister in the next months, something like a 4400 or 
> 4800 with a new additional grey cart (it would mean that the new 4000 
> would have 9 carts with two different blacks and two different grey).
> Isn't it great news?
> 
> Of course this is to be considered as rather informal and prelimary 
but 

> considered the rank of the guy, I do not think that this is a pure 
> European rumor.
> 
> Best regards
> 
> JM Humbert

Here's another link:

http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson9700.html

Sounds like people are expecting an announcment by Epson tomorrow (May 
02).

I hope so!

Scott

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Jean-Marc 
Humbert" <humbertjm@y...> wrote:
> Heard from an Epson top level manager in Europe that the current 
Epson 
> 4000 shall have a sister in the next months, something like a 4400 or 
> 4800 with a new additional grey cart (it would mean that the new 4000 
> would have 9 carts with two different blacks and two different grey).
> Isn't it great news?
> 
> Of course this is to be considered as rather informal and prelimary 
but 

> considered the rank of the guy, I do not think that this is a pure 
> European rumor.
> 
> Best regards
> 
> JM Humbert

Epson Europe already have it..
http://esupport.epson-europe.com/ProductHome.aspx?lng=en-GB&data=7D3D3DF1BB158B5E00238C1BAE906BD0B3981CDAE87855A5A7F7EA2C8F1C4335

Epson 2400/4800/7800/9800..
8 colour..
Slot 1 is MK or PK.. so one or the other..
Slot 5 is LK
Slot 8 is LLK

No GO, no R/B..

It seems like a matte printer with just ink/firmware/driver change
from the last generation 2200/4000/... series.

Michael

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com,
"scott_now_coming" <scott_now_coming@y...> wrote:

> Here's another link:
> 
> http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson9700.html
> 
> Sounds like people are expecting an announcment by Epson tomorrow (May 
> 02).

Michael,

Very interesting:

Looks like the 4400 is a CMYK printer.

The 4800 has Black, Light black, and light, light black.

Scott

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Hung" 
<mhkhung@y...> wrote:
> Epson Europe already have it..
> http://esupport.epson-europe.com/ProductHome.aspx?lng=en-
GB&data=7D3D3DF1BB158B5E00238C1BAE906BD0B3981CDAE87855A5A7F7EA2C8F1C43
35
> 
> Epson 2400/4800/7800/9800..
> 8 colour..
> Slot 1 is MK or PK.. so one or the other..
> Slot 5 is LK
> Slot 8 is LLK
> 
> No GO, no R/B..
> 
> It seems like a matte printer with just ink/firmware/driver change
> from the last generation 2200/4000/... series.
> 
> Michael
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com,
> "scott_now_coming" <scott_now_coming@y...> wrote:
> > Here's another link:
> > 
> > http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson9700.html
> > 
> > Sounds like people are expecting an announcment by Epson tomorrow 
(May 
> > 02).

At 05:02 +0000 2.5.2005, Michael Hung wrote:
*******************************************

>No GO, no R/B..
>
>It seems like a matte printer with just ink/firmware/driver change
>from the last generation 2200/4000/... series.

By my meaning there are two main problems in inkjet printing using 
pigment inks (=> stability on many kinds of media, not only special 
ones):

1. the metamerie, bronzing, BW printing, etc

2. the relatively small gamut

- the solution of first problem is to print as much as possible from 
neutral inks (maximal possible GCR)

- the solution of second problem is GO or RB inks

So maybe  we should wait one more generation of Epsons Pro printers 
for combination of both features.

My 0.02 EUR

Martin

--

I see nothing at this link - am I blind or has it been taken down?

> From: Michael Hung <mhkhung@...>
> Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 05:02:37 -0000
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Evolution of the Epson 4000?
> 
> Epson Europe already have it..
> http://esupport.epson-europe.com/ProductHome.aspx?lng=en-GB&data=7D3D3DF1BB158
> B5E00238C1BAE906BD0B3981CDAE87855A5A7F7EA2C8F1C4335
> 
> Epson 2400/4800/7800/9800..
> 8 colour..
> Slot 1 is MK or PK.. so one or the other..
> Slot 5 is LK
> Slot 8 is LLK
> 
> No GO, no R/B..
> 
> It seems like a matte printer with just ink/firmware/driver change
> from the last generation 2200/4000/... series.
> 
> Michael

Blind. It's still there.  : > )

Scott


-- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steve Kale 
<stevekale@b...> wrote:
> I see nothing at this link - am I blind or has it been taken down?
> 
> 
> > From: Michael Hung <mhkhung@y...>
> > Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 05:02:37 -0000
> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Evolution of the Epson 4000?
> > 
> > Epson Europe already have it..
> > http://esupport.epson-europe.com/ProductHome.aspx?lng=en-
GB&data=7D3D3DF1BB158

> > B5E00238C1BAE906BD0B3981CDAE87855A5A7F7EA2C8F1C4335
> > 
> > Epson 2400/4800/7800/9800..
> > 8 colour..
> > Slot 1 is MK or PK.. so one or the other..
> > Slot 5 is LK
> > Slot 8 is LLK
> > 
> > No GO, no R/B..
> > 
> > It seems like a matte printer with just ink/firmware/driver change
> > from the last generation 2200/4000/... series.
> > 
> > Michael

Yes well I was looking for a proper product announcement....

> From: scott_now_coming <scott_now_coming@...>
> Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 13:59:53 -0000
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Evolution of the Epson 4000?
> 
> Blind. It's still there.  : > )
> 
> Scott

I can't understand why we haven't heard one from Epson yet.

I don't understand it.

Maybe Epson is looking for the "buzz".

Scott

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steve Kale 
<stevekale@b...> wrote:

> Yes well I was looking for a proper product announcement....
> 
> 
> > From: scott_now_coming <scott_now_coming@y...>
> > Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 13:59:53 -0000
> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Evolution of the Epson 4000?
> > 
> > Blind. It's still there.  : > )
> > 
> > Scott

Seems like the only new things are one additional black ink, new  
firmware, and a driver.  Despite these simple mods, I doubt that  
current 4000 owners will be offered an upgrade (sidegrade?) path.   
Smells a lot like the business model Gretag is also using with their  
"new" i1 Photo package.  Keep the same hardware, add some new  
firmware features and re-package as "new and improved".

On May 2, 2005, at 12:19 PM, scott_now_coming wrote:

> I can't understand why we haven't heard one from Epson yet.
>
> I don't understand it.
>
> Maybe Epson is looking for the "buzz".
>
> Scott
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steve Kale
> <stevekale@b...> wrote:
>
>> Yes well I was looking for a proper product announcement....
>>
>>
>>
>>> From: scott_now_coming <scott_now_coming@y...>
>>> Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
>>> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 13:59:53 -0000
>>> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
>>> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Evolution of the Epson 4000?
>>>
>>> Blind. It's still there.  : > )
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>
>
>

To me, it's a step backward because the 4800 will not hold PK AND MK at 
the same time: It's one or the other.

Scott

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Carl Schofield 
<scho@m...> wrote:

> Seems like the only new things are one additional black ink, new  
> firmware, and a driver.  Despite these simple mods, I doubt that  
> current 4000 owners will be offered an upgrade (sidegrade?) path.   
> Smells a lot like the business model Gretag is also using with their  
> "new" i1 Photo package.  Keep the same hardware, add some new  
> firmware features and re-package as "new and improved".
>