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Choosing a densitometer for IJC/OPM

Choosing a densitometer for IJC/OPM

2005-05-02 by charlsalash

Hello,

  I own the Imageprint rip, but after reading all the good things
about the IJC/OPM software, I really want to give it a try, it seems
to be superior to IP. If anybody disagree, let me know!
   For IJC/OPM a densitometer seems necessary to obtain the best
results.
  I see a lot of them on ebay,but knowing nothing about them, it is
difficult for me to make a choice.
  So which one are the best for the money? A few names would be very
helpful.

  Thanks. Jerome

Re: Choosing a densitometer for IJC/OPM

2005-05-03 by Johnny Eades

Jerome,

I got one off Ebay and it works just fine for my BW work. It's an X-
Rite 810 model. Be sure the calibration steps and tablet is included 
with the equipment also. Separately they can cost $100 or more from 
Stouffer industries.

Your friend in Photography,

Johnny

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "charlsalash" 
<gureghianj@n...> wrote:
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> Hello,
> 
>   I own the Imageprint rip, but after reading all the good things
> about the IJC/OPM software, I really want to give it a try, it seems
> to be superior to IP. If anybody disagree, let me know!
>    For IJC/OPM a densitometer seems necessary to obtain the best
> results.
>   I see a lot of them on ebay,but knowing nothing about them, it is
> difficult for me to make a choice.
>   So which one are the best for the money? A few names would be very
> helpful.
> 
>   Thanks. Jerome

Re: Choosing a densitometer for IJC/OPM

2005-05-03 by Louis Dina

Jerome,

I own ImagePrint, IJC/OPM and QTR.  In my opinion, either IJC/OPM or 
QTR provide better output than ImagePrint.  You can build your own 
gray profiles, set the Dmax for each paper, and get good 
linearization, none of which ImagePrint offers.  I noticed the 
difference on my first print.  The trade off is that it is more work 
since you are often building your own profiles, but there are a lot 
of good profiles available for either IJC/OPM or QTR.

I use IJC/OPM on a Windows XP platform with my 2200 and it does a 
great job.  I also have a 4000, and IJC/OPM has some ink problems 
with that.  Hopefully they are being solved as we speak.  I also use 
QTR with equally good results.  The real difference is in the 
interface for building and editing profiles.  I like features in both 
and wish they could somehow combine all the features into one single 
program.  But they are both excellent.

I use an Eye One spectrophotometer with both IJC/OPM and QTR, so I 
can't offer personal experience in the choice of a densitometer, but 
I have heard many say that the X-Rite 810 is a good one for 
linearizing profiles.  They are usually available for a few hundred 
dollars on Ebay.

Lou

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "charlsalash" 
<gureghianj@n...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> Hello,
> 
>   I own the Imageprint rip, but after reading all the good things
> about the IJC/OPM software, I really want to give it a try, it seems
> to be superior to IP. If anybody disagree, let me know!
>    For IJC/OPM a densitometer seems necessary to obtain the best
> results.
>   I see a lot of them on ebay,but knowing nothing about them, it is
> difficult for me to make a choice.
>   So which one are the best for the money? A few names would be very
> helpful.
> 
>   Thanks. Jerome

Re: [Digital BW] Re: Choosing a densitometer for IJC/OPM

2005-05-03 by Tom Baker

Also, try using your scanner for linerization.  It's a good substitute for the densitometer.  Not as accurate, but still pretty good.  I thought the scanner linerization still gave better results for b&w than IP (which is good).
 
Tom Baker

Louis Dina <lbdina@...> wrote:
Jerome,

I own ImagePrint, IJC/OPM and QTR. In my opinion, either IJC/OPM or 
QTR provide better output than ImagePrint. You can build your own 
gray profiles, set the Dmax for each paper, and get good 
linearization, none of which ImagePrint offers. I noticed the 
difference on my first print. The trade off is that it is more work 
since you are often building your own profiles, but there are a lot 
of good profiles available for either IJC/OPM or QTR.

I use IJC/OPM on a Windows XP platform with my 2200 and it does a 
great job. I also have a 4000, and IJC/OPM has some ink problems 
with that. Hopefully they are being solved as we speak. I also use 
QTR with equally good results. The real difference is in the 
interface for building and editing profiles. I like features in both 
and wish they could somehow combine all the features into one single 
program. But they are both excellent.

I use an Eye One spectrophotometer with both IJC/OPM and QTR, so I 
can't offer personal experience in the choice of a densitometer, but 
I have heard many say that the X-Rite 810 is a good one for 
linearizing profiles. They are usually available for a few hundred 
dollars on Ebay.

Lou

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "charlsalash" 
wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I own the Imageprint rip, but after reading all the good things
> about the IJC/OPM software, I really want to give it a try, it seems
> to be superior to IP. If anybody disagree, let me know!
> For IJC/OPM a densitometer seems necessary to obtain the best
> results.
> I see a lot of them on ebay,but knowing nothing about them, it is
> difficult for me to make a choice.
> So which one are the best for the money? A few names would be very
> helpful.
> 
> Thanks. Jerome






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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Choosing a densitometer for IJC/OPM

2005-05-03 by guy washburn

Lou,

Which EyeOne kit gives one what is needed for making
color profiles and handling QTR IJC/OPM curves.

Thanks,

Guy
--- Louis Dina <lbdina@...> wrote:
 
> I use an Eye One spectrophotometer with both IJC/OPM
> and QTR, 

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[Digital BW] Re: Choosing a densitometer for IJC/OPM

2005-05-03 by Louis Dina

Guy,

Gretag, X-Rite and others have a proliferating explosion of new 
packages on the market.  I guess it depends on the features you want 
and need.  I have the Eye One with the full version of ProfileMaker 
5, which is an 800 pound gorilla (with a price tag to match).  

Most of the software packages differ in how many optional parameters 
you can set, the targets you can use, etc.  Any of the packages that 
provides a spectrophotometer (not a colorimeter) will work with 
IJC/OPM or QTR.  If your color profile generation needs are modest, 
you can probably buy something like the Eye One Photo package, or a 
similar package from X-Rite.  The less expensive software packages 
generally don't let you do CMYK profiles or offer full control, but 
you won't need that if you are only building RGB profiles using the 
Epson driver anyway.  

So, I think you have to research what is out there and balance that 
against your needs.  I know Gretag (and probably Xrite) allow you to 
add modules and upgrade as needed, so that might also be a good route 
to consider.  

Hope that helps some.

Lou
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> Lou,
> 
> Which EyeOne kit gives one what is needed for making
> color profiles and handling QTR IJC/OPM curves.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Guy
> --- Louis Dina <lbdina@c...> wrote:
>  
> > I use an Eye One spectrophotometer with both IJC/OPM
> > and QTR, 
> 
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