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Re: [Digital BW] Introduction and questions

Re: [Digital BW] Introduction and questions

2005-05-06 by Jim Coffee

Hi Dona...

Could you give us a little more info...for example what sizes would you like 
to work with?  Do you want to be a high volume digital processor or just a 
for pleasure printer.   Little clues like that would help us help you.

-Jim Coffee-
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dona" <donatracy@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 6:04 AM
Subject: [Digital BW] Introduction and questions


Hi! I am new here, new to digital black and white printing but  not new
to the darkroom :) I owned and operated a custom black and white lab in
NYC for a number of years but that was a looooong time ago but for all
intensive purposes I am a complete newbie, especially, to this
technology. After many years in a completely different field I have
decided to go back to photography and after considering all of the
difficulties of setting up a darkroom have decided to go digital. Of
course, I was spoiled with my black and white images and would desire
to hit the ground running with the best possible prints. :) I know, I
know... that will not happen since there is so much to learn. But I
guess my first question is regarding hardware... since I am starting
from scratchm, pretty much, but do not have unlimited funds... what
would you recommend as a starting place in terms of printers, inks, and
paper? I realize this is a lot to ask and you have probably been here
many times before but if there is anyone willing to work with a newbie
like me I wouuld greatly appreciate it.
Dona







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Re: Introduction and questions

2005-05-06 by Dona

Hi Jim!

Thank you so much for your response. I am heading toward photo 
journalistic style b&w pictures of babies, pets, families and 
weddings. I would like to work in at least 8X10 or 11X14 or larger :) 
I use a Nikon D70 camera at the moment and have Photoshop CS.

Dona

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Jim Coffee 
<jim@o...> wrote:
> Hi Dona...
> 
> Could you give us a little more info...for example what sizes would 
you like 
> to work with?  Do you want to be a high volume digital processor or 
just a 
> for pleasure printer.   Little clues like that would help us help 
you.
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> 
> -Jim Coffee-
>

Re: [Digital BW] Re: Introduction and questions

2005-05-06 by Scott McLoughlin

FWIW, I have a D70 too (and I scan quite a bit of B&W film too,
a tiny bit of color and slide film). I shoot just the sorts of pictures
you describe, plus some street and travel photography and recent
experimentation with some studio strobe lighting.

I've been using a C86 and the MIS EZ inks since last summer or
so, which does a great job for up to 8x10. I used it mostly to print
5x7 prints. Very economical and no fuss and good results. I
experimented a bit with glossy back in August with good results,
but I do the vast majority of my printing on EEM and Matte Scrapbook.

Seeking larger prints, I am now just figuring out a recently acquired
Epson 2200 and QTR. Using the Epson UC inks for hopeful dual duty
color/B&W in one printer. This should get me color and B&W prints
up to 13x19 (I think you can print longer for panoramic type prints too).

I find color works great on the 2200 using PK and Epson Semi Gloss. I
haven't tried matte color prints yet. As for QTR B&W, after a few so-so
experiments with some glossy paper, I installed the matte black cartridge
and immediately got great results on EEM using the QTR Gui application.
Dumb luck, but first prints on EEM looked pretty much exactly like they
do on my monitor (low contrast test pics, though, I now realize).

Just so happens, all of this early experimentation was using some D70
shots converted to B&W, cropped, doctored a bit, resized for printing,
sharpened and saved to tiff.

Anyway, just a newbie report from someone who really isn't interested
in getting a densitometer or trying to create my own curves or whatever.
I guess this is a pretty common simple setup. So far, works great on EEM at
least with no fuss at all. A few more test prints from B&W scans, larger
test prints and tests with Matte Scrapbook and I'll be ponying up the $$
for QTR.

Hope that helps.

Scott

Dona wrote:
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> Hi Jim!
>
> Thank you so much for your response. I am heading toward photo
> journalistic style b&w pictures of babies, pets, families and
> weddings. I would like to work in at least 8X10 or 11X14 or larger :)
> I use a Nikon D70 camera at the moment and have Photoshop CS.
>
> Dona
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Jim Coffee
> <jim@o...> wrote:
> > Hi Dona...
> >
> > Could you give us a little more info...for example what sizes would
> you like
> > to work with? Do you want to be a high volume digital processor or
> just a
> > for pleasure printer. Little clues like that would help us help
> you.
> >
> > -Jim Coffee-
> >
>
>
>
>
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>
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