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2005-07-02 by scott_now_coming
I just returned from CompUSA and while there, I found " PremierArt Matte Scapbook Photo Paper for Epson" (20 sheets, 8.5"x11",) for 98 cents! CompUSA is "discontinuing" this paper. Unfortunatly, they only had 1 box left. :>( If you like this aper, you may want to check your local CompUSA store. FWIW, Scott
2005-07-03 by Ken Carney
Whoa. Thanks. I'll get up there asap. I believe it is inkjetart.com museum digital art paper, coated both sides. Not great, but pretty good, paper.
> -----Original Message----- > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of scott_now_coming > Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 3:12 PM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] Epson Scapbook Matte for 98 cents? > > I just returned from CompUSA and while there, I found " > PremierArt Matte Scapbook Photo Paper for Epson" (20 sheets, > 8.5"x11",) for 98 cents! > > CompUSA is "discontinuing" this paper. > > Unfortunatly, they only had 1 box left. :>( > > If you like this aper, you may want to check your local CompUSA store. > > FWIW, > > Scott > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or > you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership > preferences by visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier > messages to keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks > or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be > removed from the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of > digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic > posts may be removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group > rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and > decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group > Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL > BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE > THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, > INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY > DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF > PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN > IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH > DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE > THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED > ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) > STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, > THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO > THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2005-07-03 by scott_now_coming
Ken, I was just wondering if you found any of this paper at that price. I was disappointed how that paper printed with my C86 and MIS EZ inks. However, call me a "simpleton", but I love the way it printed BO prints. I'm sold on BO printing. Although, I can understand why someone won't like it if they didn't like "grain". Sorry for going off on a "tangent" (lol!), Scott --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Ken Carney" <kcarney1@c...> wrote: > Whoa. Thanks. I'll get up there asap. I believe it is inkjetart.com > museum digital art paper, coated both sides. Not great, but pretty good, > paper. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On > > Behalf Of scott_now_coming > > Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 3:12 PM > > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [Digital BW] Epson Scapbook Matte for 98 cents? > > > > I just returned from CompUSA and while there, I found " > > PremierArt Matte Scapbook Photo Paper for Epson" (20 sheets, > > 8.5"x11",) for 98 cents! > > > > CompUSA is "discontinuing" this paper. > > > > Unfortunatly, they only had 1 box left. :>( > > > > If you like this aper, you may want to check your local CompUSA store.
> > > > FWIW, > > > > Scott > > > > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > > resources as they are often being updated. > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or > > you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership > > preferences by visiting this same page. > > > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier > > messages to keep them short. > > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks > > or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be > > removed from the membership without notice. > > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of > > digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic > > posts may be removed from the membership. > > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group > > rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and > > decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group > > Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL > > BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE > > THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > > YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, > > INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY > > DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF > > PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN > > IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > > YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH > > DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE > > THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED > > ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) > > STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, > > THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO > > THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > >
2005-07-03 by Clayton Jones
Hello Scott, >However, call me a "simpleton", but I love the way it printed BO >prints. I'm sold on BO printing. I doubt you're a simpleton, and there's certainly no need to be apologetic for liking BO. Some people like vanilla, some like strawberry and some like chocolate. In the "Dark Ages" some went for the AA look and some liked 35mm Tri-X in Rodinol. No reason for it to be different now. Here's a quote from an email I received recently from someone who got several of my prints: "Sitting here looking at b&w prints made using piezogaphy, ut7/qtr, and eboni bo, your bo prints really stand out in their clarity and openness. I really like them." There are lots of BO lovers out there and I regularly receive emails with similar testimonies, so you're in good company. There is also a good possibility that the color problem will be solved and the 2BO technique (2 blacks only) will give us the best of both worlds: all of BO's positive attributes without the graininess, giving us yet another option. Regards, Clayton Info on black and white digital printing at http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm
2005-07-03 by Ken Carney
Scott,
Nope. I think anything for sale at CompUSA for 98c would be snapped up
immediately, even if the purchaser didn't know what it was. As I recall the
paper was OK with the 2200, and IP had a profile for it. But I don't think
it was as good as PhotoRag or EEM. I think inkjetart.com billed it as a
"basic" paper. I've tried BO printing, but a lot of my photos are not
wanting for grain in the first place, so I'm not sure I want to add more!
Best regards,
--Ken Carney
www.kencarney.com> -----Original Message----- > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of scott_now_coming > Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 10:11 AM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Epson Scapbook Matte for 98 cents? > > Ken, > > I was just wondering if you found any of this paper at that price. > > I was disappointed how that paper printed with my C86 and MIS EZ inks. > > However, call me a "simpleton", but I love the way it printed > BO prints. > > I'm sold on BO printing. Although, I can understand why > someone won't like it if they didn't like "grain". > > Sorry for going off on a "tangent" (lol!), > > Scott
2005-07-04 by scott_now_coming
Clayton, For my personal work, I'm using BO. I plan on getting the 4800 sometime this year. Maybe then I'll use something other than BO. Until then, I'm sticking to "black only". At normal viewing distance, you can't even see the "grain", but you do notice the "sharpness"! Scott --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Clayton Jones" <cj@c...> wrote: > Hello Scott, > > >However, call me a "simpleton", but I love the way it printed BO > >prints. I'm sold on BO printing. > > I doubt you're a simpleton, and there's certainly no need to be > apologetic for liking BO. Some people like vanilla, some like > strawberry and some like chocolate. In the "Dark Ages" some went for > the AA look and some liked 35mm Tri-X in Rodinol. No reason for it to > be different now. Here's a quote from an email I received recently > from someone who got several of my prints: > > "Sitting here looking at b&w prints made using piezogaphy, ut7/qtr, > and eboni bo, your bo prints really stand out in their clarity and > openness. I really like them." > > There are lots of BO lovers out there and I regularly receive emails > with similar testimonies, so you're in good company. There is also a > good possibility that the color problem will be solved and the 2BO > technique (2 blacks only) will give us the best of both worlds: all of > BO's positive attributes without the graininess, giving us yet another
> option. > > > Regards, > Clayton > > > Info on black and white digital printing at > http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm
2005-07-04 by jim_natale
I think Epson Scrapbook Matte is the same as PremierArt Hot Press. Not quite as bright as the other two papers you mention, but its longevity should well exceed EMM and it also might retain its original look a little better than PhotoRag--depending on whether or not OBAs really turn yellow or not, which, after reading about, I certainly don't know for sure. I like PHP, but it took some tweaking to get it to match (close enough for my purposes) EEM proofs. --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Ken Carney" <kcarney1@c...> wrote: > Scott, > > Nope. I think anything for sale at CompUSA for 98c would be snapped up > immediately, even if the purchaser didn't know what it was. As I recall the > paper was OK with the 2200, and IP had a profile for it. But I don't think > it was as good as PhotoRag or EEM. I think inkjetart.com billed it as a > "basic" paper. I've tried BO printing, but a lot of my photos are not > wanting for grain in the first place, so I'm not sure I want to add more!
> > Best regards, > > --Ken Carney > www.kencarney.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On > > Behalf Of scott_now_coming > > Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 10:11 AM > > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Epson Scapbook Matte for 98 cents? > > > > Ken, > > > > I was just wondering if you found any of this paper at that price. > > > > I was disappointed how that paper printed with my C86 and MIS EZ inks. > > > > However, call me a "simpleton", but I love the way it printed > > BO prints. > > > > I'm sold on BO printing. Although, I can understand why > > someone won't like it if they didn't like "grain". > > > > Sorry for going off on a "tangent" (lol!), > > > > Scott
2005-07-05 by scott_now_coming
The BO prints I made with that paper look great. I wasn't able to make a good print with the MIS EZ inks,though.: > ( I love the warm paper tone for portraits. Scott --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "jim_natale" <jim_natale@h...> wrote: > I think Epson Scrapbook Matte is the same as PremierArt Hot Press. > Not quite as bright as the other two papers you mention, but its > longevity should well exceed EMM and it also might retain its original > look a little better than PhotoRag--depending on whether or not OBAs > really turn yellow or not, which, after reading about, I certainly > don't know for sure. > > I like PHP, but it took some tweaking to get it to match (close enough > for my purposes) EEM proofs. > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Ken Carney" > <kcarney1@c...> wrote: > > Scott, > > > > Nope. I think anything for sale at CompUSA for 98c would be snapped up > > immediately, even if the purchaser didn't know what it was. As I > recall the > > paper was OK with the 2200, and IP had a profile for it. But I > don't think > > it was as good as PhotoRag or EEM. I think inkjetart.com billed it as a > > "basic" paper. I've tried BO printing, but a lot of my photos are not > > wanting for grain in the first place, so I'm not sure I want to add > more! > > > > Best regards, > > > > --Ken Carney > > www.kencarney.com > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > > > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On > > > Behalf Of scott_now_coming > > > Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 10:11 AM > > > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Epson Scapbook Matte for 98 cents? > > > > > > Ken, > > > > > > I was just wondering if you found any of this paper at that price. > > > > > > I was disappointed how that paper printed with my C86 and MIS EZ inks.
> > > > > > However, call me a "simpleton", but I love the way it printed > > > BO prints. > > > > > > I'm sold on BO printing. Although, I can understand why > > > someone won't like it if they didn't like "grain". > > > > > > Sorry for going off on a "tangent" (lol!), > > > > > > Scott
2005-07-05 by Paul Roark
Since Scrapbook paper seems to be a bargain, I've put a curve on my website at http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/C86-curves.html that gets a near perfect print out of my C86. I don't have slider settings that work well. Gamma 2.2 with the sliders at neutral 0 is OK except that the deep shadow contrast is not very good. So, this monotone curve applied to a grayscale file should do the trick. I have also added a note about the possible microbanding if the file is not at 360 (or 720, which I consider overkill). (Thanks Jeff.) Paul