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R200 Questions

R200 Questions

2005-08-13 by Clayton Jones

Hello All,

Is anyone using Eboni in the R200?

Is anyone doing BO with the R200?

Thanks very much.


Regards,
Clayton


Info on black and white digital printing at    
http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm

RE: [Digital BW] R200 Questions

2005-08-13 by Paul Roark

Clayton,

I had Eboni in one yesterday.  It worked fine.

I looked for a BO mode this morning, and it appears the R200 driver has
none.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Clayton
> Jones
> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 8:29 PM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] R200 Questions
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> Is anyone using Eboni in the R200?
> 
> Is anyone doing BO with the R200?
> 
> Thanks very much.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Clayton
> 
> 
> Info on black and white digital printing at
> http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: [Digital BW] R200 Questions

2005-08-13 by Paul Roark

Clayton,

Sorry, I had PKN in the R200 this morning.  There is BO for matte paper
types.  The options change with the paper type selected.

I just did a BO with PKN ink and Matte HW paper type selected.  The banding
was rather bad.  I suspect the cheaper Epson printers are just not built
well enough to compete with the 1280, 2200 and higher class machines in BO
printing.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 
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> 
> I had Eboni in one yesterday.  It worked fine.
> 
> I looked for a BO mode this morning, and it appears the R200 driver has
> none.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Clayton
> > Jones
> > Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 8:29 PM
> > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Digital BW] R200 Questions
> >
> > Hello All,
> >
> > Is anyone using Eboni in the R200?
> >
> > Is anyone doing BO with the R200?
> >
> > Thanks very much.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Clayton
> >
> >
> > Info on black and white digital printing at
> > http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources
> as
> > they are often being updated.
> >
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint
> >
> > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to
> > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this
> same
> > page.
> >
> > Please follow these basic guidelines:
> > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to
> keep
> > them short.
> > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames.
> > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the
> > membership without notice.
> > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W
> > printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed
> from
> > the membership.
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> > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner
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> > "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as
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> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint
> 
> If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to
> unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same
> page.
> 
> Please follow these basic guidelines:
> - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep
> them short.
> - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames.
> Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the
> membership without notice.
> - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W
> printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from
> the membership.
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> guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner
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> OWNER AND MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN
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Re: R200 Questions - Thanks, Paul! (NT)

2005-08-15 by Steve Matten

Clayton and Paul,

I am using a R200 and Epson EEM. I am new to digital printing and 
the R200 renewed my love for B&W printing that was lost long ago 
when I no longer had a darkroom.

I have learned so much from both of you and the others on this 
forum, thanks for all that you have done.

Regarding the R200, I am using the Epson ink that came with the 
printer and have done several BO. I do not know what is 'good' yet 
but I am pleased with most of the results.

I am planning to buy some ink and paper from Media Street and use 
the QTR for the R200. The paper and ink cost just about as much as 
the printer did! But it is worth using to get my feet wet with until 
I can get a 2400 or something like it.

Any advice about the R200, what to look for in quality prints, inks 
and papers will be greatly appreciated.

Steve Matten 

 
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Clayton Jones" 
<cj@c...> wrote:
>

Re: R200 Questions - Thanks, Paul! (NT)

2005-08-15 by Clayton Jones

Hello Steve,

>Regarding the R200, I am using the Epson ink that came with the 
>printer and have done several BO. I do not know what is 'good' yet 
>but I am pleased with most of the results.
> 
>I am planning to buy some ink and paper from Media Street and use 
>the QTR for the R200. 

Thanks for the reply.  Please keep us posted on your experience with
those inks.

Regards,
Clayton


Info on black and white digital printing at    
http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm

RE: [Digital BW] Re: R200 Questions - Thanks, Paul! (NT)

2005-08-15 by Paul Roark

Steve,

> 
> I am using a R200 and Epson EEM...
>...
>... using to get my feet wet with until I can get a 2400 or 
>something like it.
> 
> Any advice about the R200, what to look for in quality prints, inks
> and papers will be greatly appreciated.
> 

I suppose the R200 is like the C86, the quality of the Black Only printing
will depend on the individual machine.  The R200 I have bands in BO mode,
but is excellent when all the inks are firing.

I have not seen prints make with the MS inks, but one thing you'll notice is
that costs drop dramatically if you load your own cartridges from bulk ink.
The MIS clear, easy-refill carts make this rather painless.

In the MIS lineup, UT2 works OK in the R200 with driver controls (the 1280
curves don't work), but I'm probably going to try another approach with it
-- not sure what yet, but probably a hextone analogy to the C86 EZ inkset.
The R200 is capable of amazingly good prints, at least on matte paper --
visually as good as any printer at any price.  In short, this little machine
can do essentially perfect prints if set up correctly.  So, you should see
no artifacts at all.

For matte prints the EEM is good for learning and prints that don't need to
be archival, but it is acidic and will yellow eventually.

For glossy prints, the Costco Kirkland Glossy inkjet paper is about as good
and cheap as it gets for letter size.  My initial impression is that the
r200 prints more differently between matte and glossy papers than most of
the other printers I've used.  I'm not sure why.

Good luck with your B&W.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

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