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QTR Grey ICC Problem

QTR Grey ICC Problem

2005-08-17 by bwbonkers

I have created a number of these profiles with no problems. However I 
can not get HPR profile to work. It output a virtually black print!!!! 

I changed over the black ink today for mk, and created two profiles, 
one EAM the other HPR. Both created using the same workflow. The EAM 
profile works, the HPR doesn't. I have tried just about everything I 
can think of but cannot get the HPR profile to work. Something is 
corrupt but I cannot see what the heck it is.

Any ideas.

Peter

Re: [Digital BW] QTR Grey ICC Problem

2005-08-17 by Steve Kale

What does it look like in Colorsync Utility (Mac)?  Take a look at the
EyeOne Data file (in a text editor) and make sure that looks ok
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> From: bwbonkers <PeterDLevis@...>
> Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 18:01:00 -0000
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Digital BW] QTR Grey ICC Problem
> 
> I have created a number of these profiles with no problems. However I
> can not get HPR profile to work. It output a virtually black print!!!!
> 
> I changed over the black ink today for mk, and created two profiles,
> one EAM the other HPR. Both created using the same workflow. The EAM
> profile works, the HPR doesn't. I have tried just about everything I
> can think of but cannot get the HPR profile to work. Something is
> corrupt but I cannot see what the heck it is.
> 
> Any ideas.
> 
> Peter

RE: [Digital BW] QTR Grey ICC Problem

2005-08-17 by John Moody

Verify that your L values go down somewhat smoothly, and without rising up
at the darkest patches.  If not, something in your linearization is not
right as well.

Best regards,
John Moody
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To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] QTR Grey ICC Problem

I have created a number of these profiles with no problems. However I
can not get HPR profile to work. It output a virtually black print!!!!

I changed over the black ink today for mk, and created two profiles,
one EAM the other HPR. Both created using the same workflow. The EAM
profile works, the HPR doesn't. I have tried just about everything I
can think of but cannot get the HPR profile to work. Something is
corrupt but I cannot see what the heck it is.

Any ideas.

Peter




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Re: QTR Grey ICC Problem

2005-08-17 by bwbonkers

Checked the data file in Excel and it looks OK to me. Checked the 
format against the EAM data file which works. I have not altered 
these files in anyway. I've just remeasured the test strip again 
created the grey ICC file and again it prints out a virtually black 
output. Do exactly the same with the EAM test strip and it works 
perfectly.

If its not too much trouble could some kind sole email me offline if
they would be prepared to have a look at the data file and created 
grey profile. Perhaps I could email the files and somebody with more
experience than me could see if they could see what the problem is.

Many thanks

Peter.



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "bwbonkers" 
<PeterDLevis@a...> wrote:
> I have created a number of these profiles with no problems. However 
I 
> can not get HPR profile to work. It output a virtually black 
print!!!! 
> 
> I changed over the black ink today for mk, and created two 
profiles, 
> one EAM the other HPR. Both created using the same workflow. The 
EAM 
> profile works, the HPR doesn't. I have tried just about everything 
I
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> can think of but cannot get the HPR profile to work. Something is 
> corrupt but I cannot see what the heck it is.
> 
> Any ideas.
> 
> Peter

RE: [Digital BW] Re: QTR Grey ICC Problem

2005-08-17 by John Moody

You could paste the data right into the message, and all interested can take
a look.  I’ll take a crack at it.

Best regards,
John Moody
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From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of bwbonkers
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 3:15 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: QTR Grey ICC Problem

Checked the data file in Excel and it looks OK to me. Checked the
format against the EAM data file which works. I have not altered
these files in anyway. I've just remeasured the test strip again
created the grey ICC file and again it prints out a virtually black
output. Do exactly the same with the EAM test strip and it works
perfectly.

If its not too much trouble could some kind sole email me offline if
they would be prepared to have a look at the data file and created
grey profile. Perhaps I could email the files and somebody with more
experience than me could see if they could see what the problem is.

Many thanks

Peter.






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Re: QTR Grey ICC Problem

2005-08-17 by bwbonkers

John

Thanks for the suggestion. Steve Kale had a look and I think he's 
solved the problem. The Lab L value at 100, 98 are incorrect in that 
they are increasing instead of decreasing. Looking at the ICC file in 
colorSync shows this blip. I didn't see this because I was sorting 
the data on Lab L and in this case it gave me false info. A lesson in 
sorting data correctly. Slowly learning a little bit more of what 
this all means.

Peter 
-- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "John Moody" 
<moodymz3@y...> wrote:
> You could paste the data right into the message, and all interested 
can take
> a look.  I'll take a crack at it.
> 
> Best regards,
> John Moody
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of 
bwbonkers
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> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 3:15 PM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: QTR Grey ICC Problem
> 
> Checked the data file in Excel and it looks OK to me. Checked the
> format against the EAM data file which works. I have not altered
> these files in anyway. I've just remeasured the test strip again
> created the grey ICC file and again it prints out a virtually black
> output. Do exactly the same with the EAM test strip and it works
> perfectly.
> 
> If its not too much trouble could some kind sole email me offline if
> they would be prepared to have a look at the data file and created
> grey profile. Perhaps I could email the files and somebody with more
> experience than me could see if they could see what the problem is.
> 
> Many thanks
> 
> Peter.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

RE: [Digital BW] Re: QTR Grey ICC Problem

2005-08-17 by John Moody

That’s great.  We are all learning how best to use the new tool, which is a
great advance for BW printing, IMO.  What it does for BO alone is worth the
price.  We can thank Steve for pushing the debate that ultimately led Roy to
creating it.

Best regards,
John Moody
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Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 4:55 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: QTR Grey ICC Problem

John

Thanks for the suggestion. Steve Kale had a look and I think he's
solved the problem. The Lab L value at 100, 98 are incorrect in that
they are increasing instead of decreasing. Looking at the ICC file in
colorSync shows this blip. I didn't see this because I was sorting
the data on Lab L and in this case it gave me false info. A lesson in
sorting data correctly. Slowly learning a little bit more of what
this all means.

Peter




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