Digital BW, The Print

Jay,

Try setting your black output level (not input level) in levels to 25 then. 
That, I believe, redefines 25 as 0 and shifts everything above accordingly 
in your printer.

Bob Frost.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "jay_madrid" <jay_madrid@...>

I am finding that to my eye the output is extremely neutral. However,
after printing some graduation test images I'm finding that RGB values
from approximately 25,25,25 on down are all printing as black- i.e.
the printer is printing too dark. I plan to experiment with
curves/levels adjustments and/or custom profiles to resolve this. I
have no doubt that I'll be able to get output that is good enough for me.

Hello Jay,

I've dealt with this recently myself. The method I used to determine 
the black point and white point is to open the image>layers>levels> 
then hold down the alt key and move the left sliding button just 
enough to move it>the image will go away and place of it will be 
just some areas showing the darkest part of the image>choose an area 
from that image and it will reset the 0 to a number that represents 
the darkest part of the image. Do the same with the white (highest 
level) and use these as a standard starting point for the rest of 
your images.

Your friend in Photography,

Johnny






--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Frost" 
<bob@f...> wrote:
> Jay,
> 
> Try setting your black output level (not input level) in levels to 
25 then. 
> That, I believe, redefines 25 as 0 and shifts everything above 
accordingly 
> in your printer.
> 
> Bob Frost.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "jay_madrid" <jay_madrid@y...>
> 
> I am finding that to my eye the output is extremely neutral. 
However,
> after printing some graduation test images I'm finding that RGB 
values
> from approximately 25,25,25 on down are all printing as black- i.e.
> the printer is printing too dark. I plan to experiment with
> curves/levels adjustments and/or custom profiles to resolve this. I
> have no doubt that I'll be able to get output that is good enough 
for me.

Jay,

I think the following link will provide you with the answer:

http://www.zuberphotographics.com/page_BlackPoint.htm

Best regards,
Nuno

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Frost" 
<bob@f...> wrote:
> Jay,
> 
> Try setting your black output level (not input level) in levels to 
25 then. 
> That, I believe, redefines 25 as 0 and shifts everything above 
accordingly 
> in your printer.
> 
> Bob Frost.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "jay_madrid" <jay_madrid@y...>
> 
> I am finding that to my eye the output is extremely neutral. 
However,
> after printing some graduation test images I'm finding that RGB 
values
> from approximately 25,25,25 on down are all printing as black- i.e.
> the printer is printing too dark. I plan to experiment with
> curves/levels adjustments and/or custom profiles to resolve this. I
> have no doubt that I'll be able to get output that is good enough 
for me.

Heard this today.

Agfa Photo is going to be history. AgfaPhoto GmbH, Germany, will  
cease to exist after December 31st, 2005.  A take-over offer by a  
U.K. firm has fallen through.

Mark



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